CHAT ARCHIVE - 11-21-98, Impromptu

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Started on Sun Nov 22 01:53:46 1998

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<Casey> Good evening, Minky! As well as being chat moderator tonight, I'm also my own sysop until Zen or Chip arrives, so I will be distracted occasionally.
<Casey> If I don't answer right away, then I am busily doing sysop stuff but will be right with you as soon as I can.
<Minky5> that's ok
<shorty103> hi Minky, do have a name other than that, that I may call you
<Minky5> Mary
<shorty103> okay, thanks
<Minky5> Minky just has all my initials
<shorty103> so what brought this evening on Casey, I thought it wasn't going to be until next weekend
<Minky5> Rose... Casey said she's doing sysop stuff too and may not answer right away
<Casey> Well, your questions last night prompted it, plus Chip telling Minky that NW was this weekend instead of next weekend
<shorty103> I hope your not mad at me for interrupting last night
<Casey> Oh, no, not at all!!! You have good questions.
<shorty103> well, I glad to see I had some sort of input on tonight
<Casey> And Crip was asking about meeting this weekend, too.
<shorty103> who else is coming tonight
<Casey> Zach, Crip and Chip are all going to be late.
<shorty103> okay
<Casey> (Chip: the person who got me into this in the first place! Should we beat her?)
<Casey> Zen may also come. He was very interested in it this afternoon.
<Minky5> don't mind me lurking...
<shorty103> I am already, my heating blanket is on, my tea is beside, and I have only one or two questions ready, but I will play the rest by ear
<Casey> You are not lurking! You are fully in this room and a valuable, contributing member.
<shorty103> Mary, you can lurk all you want
<Casey> Great. You sound very cozy there. And questions, for me, have a way of leading to other questions.
<Minky5> back to one hand typing again *sigh*
<Casey> Minky, I'll have you wait to introduce yourself, because if you go through that now, you'll be repeating yourself when the others arrive.
<shorty103> yes they do, and yes you could answer one or two or all, it just depends on the topic, which I didn't catch
<Minky5> I figured that out already... being the new kid on the block
<Casey> There is no set topic tonight. I've already set up character creation for next weekend, so I feel I need to leave that for later since its posted to the message board.
<shorty103> Casey, are we going to touch base on themes and plots tonight
<Casey> We can talk about anything you're interested in tonight.
<Casey> We can.
<Casey> It's open topic night.
<Minky5> is there usually a topic posted on the message board?
<shorty103> I am going through Joanne Reid's free course, writing a novel in ten weeks, is that possible
<Minky5> where's that Rose?
<Casey> Yes. I wrote a novel in 3 mos. once, but never done one that fast again.
<shorty103> go to www.come.to/writing
<Minky5> Thanks
<Casey> OH! 10 weeks! Mine was written in 12. Hmmm. That is fast.
<shorty103> when you get there Mary, go to free courses, then to writing a novel in ten weeks, and you will all set
<Minky5> I've never written a novel... hope to soon
<Minky5> is that an on going course Rose?
<shorty103> I have been working on for five years, so you are lucky Casey
<Casey> The one I'm presently working on, Rose, has been in the making for 5 years now and still counting.
<Casey> This one will be publishable (I hope). The 12 week novel was and is not.
<shorty103> well, you don't have to send anything in if you don't want to, and the author will reply to any e-mail you do send to her
<shorty103> well, I just want mine to be either way at this point
<shorty103> I want to finish it! I don't think that is too much to ask of myself
<Casey> Yep. Getting it on paper is the most monumental goal.
<shorty103> yes, it is a big goal
<Casey> Anything after that is manageable.
<shorty103> true
<Minky5> Do you both have a set time to write each day?
<shorty103> no
<Casey> No. I really am not able to write any significant amount until January. This is a very busy time of year for me.
<Minky5> it's the starting and stopping that makes things hard for me
<shorty103> I can write any time, providing I'm not out shopping or visiting my sister
<Casey> I compose in my head, and do the background work for the novel when I'm not able to write. So in effect I don't ever stop writing, but it is frustrating at times not being able to get my visions on paper.
<Minky5> all the *obligations* get in the way
<shorty103> I find Wednesday's hard, but I wait until after nine to do any writing
<shorty103> yes, there are a lot of them even when you don't want them, Mary
<Casey> Exactly.
<shorty103> what time are the others going to join us
<Casey> Zach just came back online.
<Minky5> can't put a 4 month old on hold!
<Casey> We're not waiting for Crip and Chip. They won't arrive for another 30 mins. at least.
<Casey> Oh, no, you can't! And you answered the unasked question I was just wondering.
<shorty103> okay, I understand that one, but that was a long time ago for me
<Minky5> life is full of little *accidents*
<Casey> Do you have a girl or boy?
<shorty103> so may I ask the first question and what my theme is
<Casey> Yes. Please do.
<Minky5> a girl... it's boy, girl, boy, girl....
<Minky5> but yrs apart!
<shorty103> my theme is, to show no matter what life dishes out, there is always hope for a better future
<Casey> Good one, Rose.
<shorty103> my question is, Is a theme the same or different than a working title?
<Casey> Different
<shorty103> in what way
<Casey> A working title is simply whatever you are presently calling the book, which could change upon publication.
<shorty103> but doesn't the theme change too depending on what you are writing
<Casey> The theme for an entire book is simply that: what the thrust of your story is about. That should not change drastically, altho you may modify it in subtle ways as your story develops greater depth.
<Minky5> kind of like a mission statement for an organization
<Casey> For instance, you may wish to include: And individuals do have the power to design a better future for themselves because individual choice decides one's future.
<Casey> Exactly, Minky.
<Casey> But that only adds explanations or elaborates upon your overall theme, which is what you have already given us.
<Casey> It does not change it.
<shorty103> so when someone asks what is the theme of your story in one sentence, what I wrote could fit for that moment
<Casey> It can fit for the entire book, all the way through, without changing.
<shorty103> understood
<Minky5> the theme shouldn't change or you loose the focus
<shorty103> right
<Minky5> and your reader gets lost
<Casey> Exactly
<shorty103> I had a hard time getting to that point, I had to do some real soul searching
<Casey> That's what writing is. Soul searching. Good writing, anyway.
<shorty103> what you like my questions
<Casey> Yes, you've always had good questions.
<shorty103> lol
<Minky5> I find writing difficult... but I like the results
<shorty103> yes, me too!
<shorty103> I have another question
<Casey> Writing is extremely difficult. More so than most people understand.
<Casey> But the challenge is what I love.
<Casey> Go ahead, Rose.
<shorty103> When you're doing an outline, is it good to put in the point of recognition as a guidepost for both you and the reader?
<Casey> The reader would never see your outline.
<Casey> If putting in points of recognition will help you, by all means, do so.
<Minky5> what is a point of recognition?
<shorty103> yes, but the point of recognition
<Casey> The outline is for the writer. To keep you on track.
<shorty103> finding and resolving a complication Mary
<Casey> Is this part of your homework for the course you're taking?
<shorty103> yes
<shorty103> have I learned anything Casey
<Minky5> conflict is the old term then?
<Casey> No, Mary.
<Casey> A point of recognition would be where the character says to himself, "Ah-ha!"
<shorty103> I'm using words I never thought I would learn
<shorty103> exactly
<Casey> You've learned an amazing amount in a short period of time, Rose. You amaze me.
<shorty103> really!
<Minky5> James Joyce had a term for that ah-ha...
<Casey> Yes, really. You've come farther, faster, than anyone else I know.
<Casey> What is it, Minky?
<Minky5> if I could only spell it
<Casey> Oh! One of those words!
<Minky5> you got it!
<shorty103> I even amaze myself, I am looking within myself to the depths that I had never gone before
<Casey> I can't teach poetry because I can't spell the words that describe the sounds of words.
<Casey> and the meter terms.
<shorty103> yes, those five senses of characterization
<Casey> Would you care to go over the 5 senses of characterization for us, Rose?
<Minky5> I was just going to ask that...
<Casey> Heh, heh. I'm only the moderator because I type faster . . .
<shorty103> very funny Casey, but here it goes, touch, smell, sound, taste, hear
<shorty103> yes, you do type fast, but I am getting there
<Casey> Great! Does that mean I can hand this post over to you soon?
<Casey> I'll even teach you to sysop.
<shorty103> nnnnnnoooooooo!
<Casey> laughing!
<shorty103> you do it so well, I rather come to you than you come to me at this point
<shorty103> lol
<Casey> Let me know when the points change, okay?
<shorty103> lol
<Casey> Honestly, tho, keeping in mind our 5 senses when you write is important.
<Minky5> found the word... epiphany
<Casey> Mary's piece included the scent of coffee!
<Casey> Yes. Epiphany!
<shorty103> yes that is important
<Casey> (I'll trust your spelling.)
<shorty103> what is that word]
<Minky5> nice of you to remember... I haven't even read your piece yet
<Minky5> the dictionary definition...
<Casey> Since someone will doubtlessly tattle on me, I'll warn you now: I have a very good memory. Usually.
<Casey> Sleep definitely helps it along.
<shorty103> not I, said the mouse in the corner of the room!
<Minky5> a sudden manifestation of the essence or meaning of something
<Minky5> the walk helped me...
<shorty103> Casey, I hate to see us in person on this subject, we be laughing through it.
<Casey> I was thinking more about the very-vocal Zen or incorrigible Chipmonk.
<Casey> (Terms of endearment used affectionately)
<shorty103> well, most of the time, lol
<Minky5> *what have I gotten into she wonders!*
<shorty103> then we wouldn't get a word in anywhere
<Casey> Really bad time to wonder now, when you're already into it. And can't escape.
<shorty103> true
<Minky5> definitely too late
<Casey> Or that's what Zen tells me. "There's no unvolunteering."
<Minky5> lol
<Minky5> brb... been talking too much and I need a drink, that nice cuppa tea sounded good
<shorty103> well, Mary, these are some of the question you will have to think about in Lesson 1 of this course. What is my theme? Q.2 how do you feel about this subject?
<Casey> Okay. I'm sysoping again.
<shorty103> and for every question they ask, I have five to ask myself
<Goshwin> Goshwin has entered the building! (GRIN)
<shorty103> long time no see
<Minky5> sounds like what I need.... I'll definitely check it out
<Goshwin> hello shorts
<shorty103> very funny Gosh
<Minky5> Hello Goshwin
<Minky5> newbie, be gentle
<Goshwin> hello mink
<Casey> What trouble are you up to tonight?
<Goshwin> Me? just recovering from my surprise over seeing Borst joining our group...
<Casey> I was surprised to see that! Wow, we made an impression last night.
<Casey> Does he write then?
<Goshwin> \and planning to examine the buffer I saved from last night
<Casey> Or is he coming for the entertainment value?
<Goshwin> no .. but I think he is fascinated by the creative process
<Goshwin> I have known him for YEARS.. since I was 6...
<Goshwin> I think he was having fun
<Casey> It was hard to tell last night, he was so quiet.
<Goshwin> watching the pros at it.. WAA HAHAHAHAHA
<Casey> Rose, a friend of Goshwin's joined up in chat last evening for a little while and applied for membership this morning.
<shorty103> great
<Goshwin> blew me away... Oh hi crisp
<Casey> *bats eyes.* We're soooo irresistible!
<shorty103> I have been asking some interesting question of Casey tonight
<Crispian> I see Rose
<Crispian> And how is Casey taking it, heh heh
<Casey> In stride.
<shorty103> she is doing really well, I do like her answers
<Casey> Thank you, Rose.
<Crispian> There is much wisdom there, Rose. Casey is a rare unique person
<shorty103> that she is.
<Casey> Crispian, here's a thermometer, open your mouth, I'm going for the aspirin.
<Crispian> heh heh
<shorty103> lol
<Crispian> Seen the rockettes today guys, all wound up
<shorty103> I'm sitting here bursting with laughter
<Casey> Where were they? Live somewhere?
<Crispian> Yes
<Crispian> Live with their New York Christmas show in Branson
<Minky5> where is Branson?
<Casey> Wow!
<Crispian> Branson Missouri, Minky
<shorty103> I can't go, I'm up here in Canada! Darn!
<Minky5> New York in Missouri, what a concept Crispian!
<Crispian> More than you might realize Minky
<Goshwin> Canada.. Ditto.. been snowed on yet?
<shorty103> no, but I can smell it coming.
<Crispian> Sorta like North and South all over again
<shorty103> lol
<Minky5> it has snowed in Maine
<Casey> Gosh, if we get an inch of snow this year, we're ready for it: salt, sand trucks, bulldozers, you name it.
<Crispian> Gosh, where are you residing at
<Minky5> just a little... gone the next day
<Casey> You're in Maine, Minky?
<Minky5> yup... home of Stephen King
<Crispian> And soon to be Crispian
<Casey> Pretty countryside!
<shorty103> we should get a map, and mark each new member down or do we do that already
<Minky5> I'm on the coast
<Crispian> Ah, A Canadian
<Casey> Been to Bangor, Maine. Lots of water. Lakes.
<shorty103> which coast
<Casey> You're moving, Crispy?
<Goshwin> (waves a little flag) <== flutter flutter
<Minky5> midcoast Maine, Bath to be precise, the city of ships
<shorty103> Mary, which coast
<Crispian> In lots and lots of ways Casey
<Minky5> I type slower than Casey
<Crispian> But cannot leave the South, Winters too nice
<Minky5> I wish I could keep up with my thoughts!
<shorty103> I'm in New Brunswick
<Minky5> just up the coast!
<shorty103> I have another writing-related question Casey
<shorty103> when writing a scene that is to reveal a side of the personality through self-realization, what do they mean by that
<Casey> Crip, this is Minky who has joined Z7 quite recently, making her debute.
<crip> Hi Minky
<Minky5> *curtsies*
<Casey> Hey, Minky curtsies, too!
<Crispian> Crispian Salutes
<Casey> Gosh and I do, too.
<Minky5> it's my southern up bringing
<shorty103> any takers on that question
<Goshwin> I can beat that... (curtsies.. salutes.. stands on head and farts...) (all at the same time)<== ouch
<Casey> Wow, Rose. That's a heavy question.
<shorty103> you bet
<Casey> ewwww, Goshwin! Sorry, Minky. We don't have him house-trained yet.
<shorty103> I told you I was learning something
<Minky5> oh please.... stop....
<Goshwin> see I self realized...
<Minky5> what the hell have I gotten into?!
<crip> hell, literally
<Goshwin> I realized that my head hurts...
<Casey> Self-realization is when someone understands why they react to something the way they do.
<Minky5> thanks for telling me... now...
<shorty103> that is one of many questions that they ask within this course Mary
<Crispian> Rose, self realization is when one personally becomes aware of a personality trait and then tries to convey that trait through the written word
<shorty103> okay,
<Minky5> *calming down* Rose.... I think you are outside of yourself looking in
<Casey> Anyone care to give a concrete example?
<Minky5> does that make any sense?
<shorty103> so that would come in to play when I am writing about my character
<Crispian> I realized today when the man pushed me from behind, I would anger quickly and retaliate almost without realization
<Minky5> LOL
<Minky5> sorry... that just spilled out
<shorty103> understood,
<shorty103> so crisp, wouldn't that be an action of scene of self-realization of his or her personality
<Casey> One of my own understandings about myself and the use of a telephone (and why I don't like using a telephone) is that at a very early age, I was taught to use it to call the police to report my drunken father.
<Casey> That's self-realization--or self-understanding.
<shorty103> okay, I hope I'm not losing anyone here in my questions
<Crispian> Did I misunderstand your question Rose?
<Casey> That's making a connection between an unusual discomfort with the telephone (making outgoing calls) and the catalyst that created those feelings in me.
<shorty103> talk about self-realization, I didn't know I had all this bottled up inside of me..lol
<Casey> Crispy's example is immediate: feeling his reaction to a catylst--the shoving.
<Casey> It shows self-awareness on his part.
<shorty103> yes
<Crispian> Rose, was that a question from your writing class?
<Casey> Self-realizations do not have to be earth-shattering, altho the more powerful the realization, the more impact it has on the reader.
<Minky5> look up Rogers and Maslow in a psychology text... it explains all
<shorty103> yes it was
<Crispian> Have you posted any of those questions on the Delphi message board?
<shorty103> no, I can get in
<Crispian> Can or Can't
<Casey> What problem are you encountering trying to get in?
<shorty103> can't
<Minky5> need a nickname and password... my two cents...
<shorty103> I enter my nickname and my e-mail address and press enter, it just tells me to try again that there is no record of me or something like that
<shorty103> well I did have meltdown
<Casey> You need to register first and set up a password.
<Minky5> it's email and then password I thought
<shorty103> I did that, but still nothing
<Minky5> they have a *secret question* to retrieve passwords I thought
<Crispian> Rose, I will pass on the info and see if we can get resolved
<shorty103> they did give me a new password, but I like the one I have, it's easy for me to remember
<Minky5> you can change it in My Delphi
<Crispian> I think a lot of your questions might be helpful to all our members and we in turn can all learn
<shorty103> is that okay to keep the same password
<shorty103> and yes, I would like to share this with everyone
<Casey> You should be able to use any password you pick as long as it's not already in use by someone else.
<Minky5> I've already learned that everyone is having as much difficultly as I am in getting those words down on paper!
<Crispian> Minky, are you able to get on and use Delphi?
<Goshwin> Humm it helps to write in short segments..
<Minky5> you can use any password, it's the nicknames that can't be in use by someone else
<shorty103> well, I did fill it out the first time I went there, and from that point on it wouldn't let me in,
<Minky5> thats why I'm Minkies there, Minky was taken!
<Goshwin> check you cookies.. if they are off, you can't register you ID..
<shorty103> I don't how to do that
<Minky5> have no trouble with Delphi Crispian
<Goshwin> do you use explorer or netscape
<Crispian> Good Minky; Will be looking forward to your comments.
<Casey> Excuse me, Gosh, but I simply eat cookies.
<Minky5> I clear my cookies, and eat them too... that not the problem
<shorty103> one minute, I'll check
<Casey> You mean I have to share my cookies with a Delphi?
<Goshwin> if you never heard of them, then you have never switched them off.. then that is not the issue
<shorty103> microsoft internet explorer
<Minky5> I've been in once for comments... didn't want to seem like an eager beaver and take over the joint LOL
<Crispian> Post away Minky, that is how we all learn. And we love eager beavers, and chipmonks, and Caseys that go on and on
<Casey> Aw, go ahead, take over the joint.
<shorty103> lol
<Casey> Ah-hem, Crispy!!!
<Crispian> And crispy critters, and wombats, and Gosh's etc.
<Casey> "go on and on. . ."
<Goshwin> URK?
<Casey> Are you saying I'm opinionated or something?
<Crispian> Compliment Casey
<Minky5> and be a moderator too.... thanks but no thanks *s*
<Crispian> heh heh
<shorty103> okay who was asking about my cookies, it's explorer
<Goshwin> hey don't you owe me another poem.. CRISP
<shorty103> Oh no I just lost them,
<Casey> Heck, Minky!
<shorty103> lol
<Crispian> Got one coming your way Gosh
<Goshwin> he he.. hey Crisp,, I have many many more where the last one came from (GRIN)
<Crispian> Good! We shall enlighten the message boards with our words of wit then gosh
<shorty103> so what kind of things would you like me to post once I get in Casey
<Crispian> Questions they are asking in class rose, or questions about writing etc.
<shorty103> okay
<Minky5> *raises hand*
<shorty103> great
<Casey> yes, Minky?
<Minky5> I have a question... does this meeting replace next week?
<Casey> No, it does not.
<crip> darn
<crip> i mean
<crip> oh goody
<Minky5> or is it same bat time same bat channel?
<Casey> hush, young'un
<Casey> same bat everything.
<Casey> Just different day.
<Goshwin> (throws spit ball at teacher)
<shorty103> lol
<Crispian> Casey, I will be out of town, up in cold country. Will have to catch the next one
<Casey> And an "official" meeting where I make everyone stay on topic for 2 hours. (Do I hear groans?)
<shorty103> so when is the next one Casey
<crip> what's a topic?
<Crispian> Evil
<shorty103> not from this end
<Minky5> *pout* girls just wanna have fun
<Casey> goshwin! Go sit in the corner with your back to us.
<Goshwin> well get on topic then.. ICQ gods are kind to you at the moment
<Goshwin> WAAA
<shorty103> you tell 'em teacher
<Goshwin> *Pout*
<crip> old battleaxe...
<Casey> NO! We've discussed Evil. We're not going there again soon.
<Minky5> *squirming in chair*
<Goshwin> characters then? (he says from the corner) *pout*
<Crispian> Ahhhh (pouting)
<Goshwin> <shorty103> but teacher, their not listening to me!
<Crispian> Here Gosh, (crispy tosses a cookie)
<Casey> Yes, Character Creation is next Saturday.
<shorty103> okay
<Casey> That's Rose's cookie!
<Crispian> And a very good one too
<Casey> Everyone who can make it, come with a character name and a goal for that character.
<Casey> We'll wing it from there.
<shorty103> bursting with laughter, spiting the side of the chair
<Goshwin> *Munch*
<shorty103> okay teacher
<Casey> Rose, go sit with Goshwin!
<Goshwin> (crumbs)
<Crispian> heh heh
<Minky5> *in a real small voice* I've never done this before...
<crip> man, and a goal??????? that's too much work!!!!
<shorty103> no!, he picks on me
<Casey> Then go sit in the other corner.
<shorty103> okay
<Casey> We're running out of corners.
<shorty103> lol,
<Casey> Then start with the hard stuff first, Crip: bring a name.
<shorty103> well that's four on each computer,and how many computers are there?
<Casey> We'll make up a goal for your character.
<Casey> hehehehehe!
<crip> that's still too much work. a name???????!!!!!
<shorty103> you can do it crip
<Casey> Bring what's his name--that mystic person you have.
<Crispian> Hey All, gotta split. You all have a great Sunday
<Goshwin> !! no probs I got Gagles of characters
<Casey> You, too, Crispian. Stop having fun without us.
<Minky5> bye Crispian
<Casey> Admins aren't supposed to have fun.
<Goshwin> I'll sell yah one... $$$
<shorty103> nice to you again
<Casey> Goodnight, Crispy
<Goshwin> ttfn Crisp
<Crispian> Goodnight All
<shorty103> that was fun
<crip> he's dead. casey. no can do.
<Casey> Are you going to bring one we can pronounce tho, Gosh?
<Minky5> so.... how does this work... after the name and the goal?
<Casey> Well, Manerra's dead, and I brought him last time.
<Casey> I thought he was immortal! How did you kill him?
<crip> that's different. he's an established character.
<Goshwin> he he,, NO! or how about a human one.. not many ... they go for cheap
<crip> death by creator!!!!! no one escapes that horrible fate!!
<Minky5> he's not dead... he's resting
<shorty103> I think that I will bring Christina next week
<Casey> Ahhh, the what happens after the name and goal is the fun, secret part.
<Goshwin> dig him up, hit him with 10Kvolt and away we go.. might stink a bit tho
<Minky5> Monty Python parrot sketch... a classic
<Casey> You'll just have to wait to find out.
<Minky5> do you have secret handshakes too?
<Casey> I haven't met Christina yet, Rose.
<Casey> That's fun. A new character.
<shorty103> she is a little playful
<Casey> lol, Gosh!
<shorty103> but very shy at first
<Minky5> role playing huh?
<Casey> Not yet, but we can certainly come up with secret handshakes.
<shorty103> yeah
<Goshwin> HUmm I could bring my favorites of michef.. Pric and Prak
<Minky5> I'll keep guessing...
<Casey> We were going to have secret passwords, but neither Zen nor I could figure out how to use them.
<shorty103> oh no! not them
<crip> i know the secret finger gesture!!!! oh wait i was supposed to keep that to myself
<Minky5> or the car talk guys
<Casey> Shame on you, crip!
<shorty103> cracking the nuckles
<Casey> I love the car talk guys!
<Minky5> what the hell are their nicknames????
<shorty103> who
<Goshwin> secret typ stuff OOo I can do that.. (Puts on maase hat .. with antlers) (starts to moo and walk funny)
<Casey> Oh, rose, poleeezzzeee don't crack knuckles in my presence! It gives me the shivers.
<Casey> Click and Clack
<Goshwin> Moose hat I mant
<Minky5> thank you... that would bother me all night otherwise
<Goshwin> typos .. sigh
<Casey> Goshwin's just gone over the edge . . .
<shorty103> right uup the spine , well, don't mind me I'm a little cracked up anyway
<Minky5> igpay atinlay
<Goshwin> Edge...waaa hahahahah and Im taking all of you with me!!! (and you little dog too) (yap yap)
<shorty103> well, I could do the elbows Casey lol
<Minky5> not my ruby red slippers you don't
<Minky5>
<Minky5> I was speechless
<shorty103> me do that, yeah, I do it all the time, crack up that is
<Casey> That's okay, Rose. I'll simply take your word that you can do it.
<Minky5> *tapping fingers*
<shorty103> this is really fun tonight, I have not laughed so hard in a long time
<Casey> he he. I think Goshwin may have found a close match in Minky.
<Minky5> *wicked smile*
<Casey> Yeah, usually we're serious.
<Goshwin> Minkles? a match... so how do I lite it?
<crip> seriously insane
<shorty103> but we can cut loss once and awhile
<Minky5> very carefully
<Goshwin> (tossing matches at Mink) *BURN BABY BURN*
<shorty103> No, I'll just give crip a hair cut instead
<Minky5> but I burn slow... and a cool and satisfying smoke...
<Minky5> disco inferno
<Casey> I think that crip only recently lost most of his hair.
<Casey> To some scissor-weilding maniac.
<shorty103> chop chop, Oh no! he's bald
<crip> yeah i won't have hair for at least a year
<crip> this place makes me wanna RIP IT ALL OUT!!!
<crip> *L*
<Minky5> no one will touch my hair!
<shorty103> lol
<Goshwin> he he a Character moment from a story "Napalm is Prack's idea of perfume"
<Casey> Good think you have none then.
<Casey> thing, that should have been.
<Minky5> get shorty!
<crip> yes, good think
<crip> sure it was
<shorty103> well, I have a bald spot, but a pony tail is covering it up at the moment
<Minky5> *speechless*
<Minky5> where did everybody go?
<shorty103> boy, is everyone talkitive tonight
<Casey> Have we any other writing-related questions, or has this chat deteriorated well beyond such things?
<Minky5> I have noticed no decline in quality...
<shorty103> well, I don't have any more questions, but as soon as I do I will ask
<Goshwin> (yap yap) aw heck is that dog still hear?
<Minky5> nine lives...
<Casey> Okay, then run wild, kids.
<shorty103> yeah, darn take that dog for a walk Gosh
<Minky5> ohhhh play time
<Minky5> recess yippee!
<shorty103> lol
<Casey> (THAT was work time we just witnessed? Oh, my heavens . . .)
<shorty103> really!
<Casey> Gosh, are you still writing?
<Goshwin> work? whats that? (says he from the courner)
<Casey> You may come out of the corner as long as you don't throw any more spit balls.
<Goshwin> yah,, yoiu saw the littel piece from last night
<shorty103> oh, I think we forgot he was still in the corner
<Minky5> is that how they spell corner where ever you are?
<shorty103> lol
<Casey> Goshwin is, shall we say, a creative speller.
<Casey> Spell Check has died on his machine.
<Minky5> may be he meant coroner?
<Goshwin> lets just say that is I stoped to look at what I just typed, I would not have to guts to hit return
<shorty103> that's nice to know
<Minky5> no guts no glory
<Goshwin> is = if christ !
<Casey> Oh, yah, pick on is when stoped is right next to it.
<Minky5> huh?
<shorty103> now what are you babbling about Gosh, you saving those spit balls for after class
<Casey> stoped = stopped
<Goshwin> I often dont even attempt to spell on first pass to much of my work.. just get it out.. hash the rest later
<Minky5> is Crip lurking still...
<Casey> If he is, then watch your backs as you leave tonight.
<shorty103> I will
<Casey> Well, Gosh, you are the rare, writing admin.
<Minky5> well he is blue with cold...
<shorty103> what is a writing admin. do?
<Casey> And rarer in other ways.
<Goshwin> ?
<Minky5> gosh Gosh
<shorty103> lol
<Minky5> *kicking Goshwin* your turn
<Casey> I'm not able to write, Zen hasn't been writing that he's admitted to, Chip is busy learning html. Crispy might be writing.
<Casey> that leaves you.
<Minky5> html is a piece of cake
<Goshwin> are you trying to say that I am the only one writing?
<Casey> Not when she's had to redo her entire website to conform to the class's specific requirements.
<Casey> Actually, I thought I simply said it.
<shorty103> I don't understand, writing admin, then what's his job, to torment or what?
<Minky5> what class... if you don't mind me asking
<Casey> She's taking a computer class through her job.
<Minky5> ah
<Casey> Her website has fallen victim.
<Casey> She gets graded on it!
<shorty103> I have no job, it just looks like I do
<shorty103> or are you talking about someone else Casey
<Casey> We were talking about Chip, Rose.
<shorty103> oh okay
<Minky5> my site was originally for my html class too...
<shorty103> I don't have a web site
<Minky5> not hard to do at all... if I can do it any one can
<shorty103> I wouldn't know what to put on one even if I had one
<Casey> I wonder how many websites get created for html classes.
<Minky5> not enough... there are some awful sites out there
<shorty103> well, not enought good ones
<Casey> I know. I've seen a few.
<Minky5> *yawning* gee look at the time
<Goshwin> ZZzz
<shorty103> what time do you have Mary
<Minky5> I have to get up at five or so
<Casey> Hey, you guys are on your own time! You may leave!
<Minky5> 11:30 pm
<Minky5> class dismissed?!
<shorty103> it's 12:30 here
<Goshwin> Right then... time to make an exit
<Goshwin> bye all
<shorty103> bye Gosh
<Casey> It was dismissed when I called recess.
<shorty103> lol
<Casey> Goodnight, Goshwin.
<Minky5> didn't mean to clear the room... honest... I wanted snack
<Goshwin> (Pulls eject) .. rocket fires.. (POOF)
<Casey> goodnight, Minky. Glad you could make it. Will look forward to seeing you again next Saturday.
<shorty103> eating again Mary
<Minky5> did I pass teach? huh huh
<Casey> You sure did.
<shorty103> did I
<Casey> Oh, yes!
<Minky5> *grinning* great... I be here next time
<Casey> The "real" test is next week, tho.
<Casey> Good.
<Casey> Later, Minky.
<Minky5> *shivering in my boots*
<Casey> Enjoy the rest of the weekend.
<shorty103> yes, I am scared of that
<crip> test?????? oh darn i won't be here he he he
<Casey> YOU, young man, got me teaching NW every other week!
<Minky5> look who snuck in the back door
<Casey> I was perfectly content with once a month.
<crip> ME?? *batting eyes*
<shorty103> lol
<Minky5> got to go.... have fun
<Casey> He went to Zen and got me in trouble.
<shorty103> bye Mary
<Casey> Bye, Minks
<crip> I DID NOT! *batting eyes faster and faster*
<shorty103> she a nice lady
<Casey> Give your eyes a rest!
<shorty103> so did my questions make any sense to you Casey
<Casey> She is. I'm glad she's able to make our meetings.
<crip> thanks. ow, my eyes.
<crip> yeah, she seemed cool
<Casey> Absolutely, Rose! I appreciate the topics.
<Casey> they're things we really haven't discussed before.
<shorty103> well, she giving Gosh a run for the money
<Casey> Gosh needs someone to give him a workout.
<shorty103> well, we have to go into it more in the future
<Casey> I'm not sure whether the self-realization thing was clear.
<shorty103> I hope your keeping track of these question
<Casey> Did you understand my explanation?
<shorty103> I think so
<Casey> I save all NW buffers.
<Casey> I don't like explanations that a ambiguous.
<shorty103> well, I am glad that I have given you some new material to work with
<Casey> I like things that are clear.
<shorty103> yes, same here
<Casey> Describing a complex concept in general terms just does not cut it for me.
<shorty103> have you look at that site yet
<Casey> Not yet, but I intend to. Harold got the comp away from me, just when I had an opportunity to go check out sites.
<shorty103> oh dear
<crip> go harold! he he
<Casey> I may do it before I go to bed tonight.
<shorty103> it might be really helpful to you
<Casey> He was on ebay checking out rope drums.
<Casey> He wants to buy one.
<crip> *L*
<crip> what the heck is a rope drum??
<Casey> He NEEDS more drums (very facisious statement)
<shorty103> well, I hope he finds what he is looking for
<crip> i bet he does
<Casey> It's a drum that uses ropes to apply tension to the heads.
<shorty103> yes, that will really drive you out of the house
<crip> he hasn't bought one for you yet then? *L*
<Casey> It's a Civil War-style drum. He wants to go play with the Civil War enactors.
<Casey> In his spare time. ha ha ha!
<crip> kewl
<Casey> Rose, I don't know where the rope drum will live he he gets it. We have not more space for more drums.
<shorty103> how is hubby?
<crip> it can live in tess' space
<Casey> Crip, how do you know him so well?
<crip> um
<crip> know who?
<crip> uh
<crip> hmmm
<Casey> Anything he wants for himself, he buys "for me."
<shorty103> well isn't that nice
<Casey> Where will you live if the drum goes under the table?
<crip> for all we know, you can play the rope drum in your spare *L yeah right* time
<shorty103> whether you need it or not
<crip> hey now! that space is mine!!!!
<Casey> See! We have a problem here.
<shorty103> what problem
<crip> well, if this job doesn;t last for some reason i was told i will prbably need a new home so i guess i should stick with it
<Casey> Maybe it can live on Harold's side of the bed. He doesn't sleep there anyway.
<crip> yes, he does!
<shorty103> lol Casey
<Casey> Nope. He sleeps on my side of the bed.
<crip> oh
<crip> ewwwwwwwwwww
<Casey> I get shoved over the edge.
<crip> yeah, sure, you do
<Casey> He's trying to kill me, I know it!
<crip> good for him
<shorty103> and on to the floor, I hope not!
<crip> i mean. that's terrible
<Casey> Humph! go live with James and the bimbo!
<crip> he only promised half of the life insurance to me
<crip> oh oops
<crip> NO! I'd rather live on the streets!
<Casey> There may be a dry spot left under the bridge.
<crip> cool! I can be the troll under the bridge!
<shorty103> well, Casey, you can come live with me
<Casey> Crip's going to be the homeless one, not me!
<shorty103> not me either!
<shorty103> been there, done that!
<Casey> Seriously? Crip was looking for info on homelessness.
<Casey> I'm not sure that you care to share with him, tho.
<crip> it's ok, don't worry about it
<shorty103> and seriously I was homeless at one time in my life, I didn't like it a bit, I was even sick at the time too!
<Casey> That's how things go--bad things don't have good timing.
<Casey> Ever.
<shorty103> really
<shorty103> but I am a stronger person for those experiences
<Casey> Hardship has a way of developing a strong determination and character.
<shorty103> yes, that is what I am trying to find, so I can develop that within my character that I am writing about
<shorty103> I am writing a part of the inner story, so that I can work on it, I have typed out 1222 words already amd I don't even half of it done
<Casey> I am trying to get Chipper here.
<Casey> We're not having luck.
<crip> its icq what do you expect?
<shorty103> what's wrong Casey
<Casey> Now I thinks it's my server acting up.
<shorty103> who is Chipper?
<Casey> My list is showing "last online" "last offline" stuff and disconnecting temporarily.
<Casey> Chipmonk, Rose.
<Casey> One of our many pet names for her.
<shorty103> oh okay
<shorty103> understood
<crip> cq is such a pain
<crip> icq
<shorty103> did you get her yet
<Casey> Nope. You should see her arrive if/when we succeed.
<shorty103> don't go away, I'll be right back okay
<Casey> I hardly believe it!
<Casey> Welcome, chip.
<Chipmonk> I think I need a new service provider.
<crip> i don't see chip
<crip> oh lord
<Casey> You missed Minky. She had to get up at 5 in the morning so she went to bed.
<Casey> Crip can't see you, Chip.
<crip> pull me back in
<Chipmonk> I can't see him either.
<Casey> He left.
<Casey> I'm pulling him back in.
<Chipmonk> I just see you.
<Casey> Oh, dear. Rose is here, too.
<crip> she's still not there
<Casey> He still can't see you.
<Casey> Chip can only see me, she can't see Rose either.
<Chipmonk> I'll drop out try again.
<Casey> Okay
<crip> *L*
<shorty103> I can see me, Casey and crip and that is all
<crip> me too
<Casey> How about now?
<crip> there she is!!!!!
<crip> hey chip
<shorty103> there she is
<Casey> Great!
<Chipmonk> Hi everybody. I see you now.
<shorty103> welcome chip
<Casey> ICQ has actually been well-behaved tonight.
<shorty103> yes,
<shorty103> that is has
<shorty103> is=it
<shorty103> fingers are slowing down!
<Chipmonk> No, my net medic says its a local router and its been doing this for weeks on and off. I think their getting to much traffic and need to add some routers.
<Chipmonk> So? Did I miss wonderful discussions?
<shorty103> well, everything these days are increasing, so why not icq
<Casey> I expected the increased use through the holidays--everyone making plans to travel.
<crip> oh yeah highly informative
<Chipmonk> True.
<Casey> Has everyone recovered from that educational experience yet? Tears of laughter dried on all faces? Evidence well hidden?
<Chipmonk> How'd you guys like Minky?
<Casey> Good.
<crip> *shifts dead body behind couch* yup
<crip> she's cool
<Casey> She will give Goshwin a run for his money, I think.
<shorty103> so Casey, did you learn anything tonight, she is a really nice person chip
<Chipmonk> Great, I yhought she seemed pretty cool too.
<Casey> Yes, Rose.
<shorty103> as soon as I can get in that site, I will post those questions
<Casey> I hope you're able to get back in!
<Casey> Were the guys able to give you any pointers that you haven't tried.
<shorty103> I hope so too! I know I have learned a lot , and yes they did, but I know I can teach a little bit to by asking to those types of questions
<Casey> Well, it helps everyone, not just you.
<shorty103> yes it does
<crip> he he anybody want some hot cocoa? ahhh
<shorty103> that's what I want is to help others as well as myself, as others have been there for me
<shorty103> yeah
<Chipmonk> I have tea an raisin toast.
<Casey> They may be topics that the others have not thought much about until they come up and are addressed and they're forced to think about their own perceptions.
<Casey> hot cocoa sounds good!
<Casey> giveme, giveme!
<shorty103> me too! me too!
<Casey> ewwwww. That made an awful mess down the montor.
<Casey> Maybe you better clean that up now before any more drips onto the floor.
<Chipmonk> Or in the puter. they don't like choklit liquid.
<crip> see?????
<Casey> Chip, are you still here?
<Chipmonk> Did I ever tell you all about my ditzy boss who put a plant on a shelf over her new computer?
<Casey> Uh-oh! Water in the computer.
<Chipmonk> She wasn't paying attention and overflowed the plant when she watered it. then turned the computer on to see what would happen.
<Chipmonk> Fried monitor happened.
<Casey> That was an expensive experiment!
<shorty103> so what did she do about it chip
<shorty103> I bet she didn't do that again
<Chipmonk> Lied and got a free replacement.
<crip> ok
<crip> stupid icq
<Casey> Welcome back Rose and Crip.
<shorty103> what happened
<shorty103> that was something to see, she trying to wiggle her way out of that one
<Casey> I spoke nicely about ICq, it heard, and started dumping people.
<crip> yeah i see how it is
<shorty103> oh dear Casey, we can't have that
<Chipmonk> Fickle.
<Casey> Yep
<Casey> Rose, which character have you written the 1222 words about?
<shorty103> Casey, how do you know what kind of audience you want to attract with your writing
<shorty103> Christina
<Casey> Well, is does your subject have a mature theme that would only appeal to a mature audience?
<shorty103> confused
<Casey> Is it action-packed, is it more thought-provoking? Does it deal with teen issues?
<shorty103> thought-provoking and teen issues
<shorty103> and the only action there is, the physical and emotional abuse between two of the characters
<Casey> Then teens and older would be interested in reading it.
<Casey> Teens like action, tho.
<shorty103> but not that kind of action
<Casey> Some may read it. Not all teens are goofy--intellectually, that is.
<shorty103> but it will show them what could happen in that type of relationship
<crip> yeah!
<crip> oh oops
<crip> bad example
<Chipmonk> Might be appropriate for say, the teen girls magazines, maybe?
<shorty103> okay
<Chipmonk> They tend to print more issues oriented pieces.
<shorty103> I was twenty and almost twenty-one when this happened to me
<Chipmonk> Okay, then young womens magazines.
<shorty103> okay
<shorty103> that sounds better
<Casey> Sometimes you can judge your niche by the ages and sex of your characters, who it may appeal to.
<shorty103> I know that I need to write it, if it goes anywhere from there that is a bonus
<shorty103> yes that is true
<Chipmonk> What problems they're facing and are they typical of a certain group.
<Casey> Exactly
<shorty103> well, the boyfriend of the character Christina, is very possive, arguemenmtive, steals, head strong,
<shorty103> and most of all abusive
<Casey> brb dog break
<shorty103> okay
<Chipmonk> Definitely sounds more appropriate for a women's market.
<shorty103> interesting, but it sounds like the same old story, but just by someone different
<Chipmonk> Are you writing it as if it were happening now, or looking back to the time it reallyhappened?
<Chipmonk> That isn't necessarily a problem.
<shorty103> well, that has gotten me stuck, I'm not sure what pov to use
<shorty103> I as in me playing the character or the character playing the character
<Chipmonk> You could try it several ways an see which feels best.
<shorty103> first or third, that is the question
<shorty103> yes, I am trying both ways, it did happen to me, so If I use it that way, at least I can say I.
<Chipmonk> I pretend I'm a disembodied spirit inside the character, watching through their eyes.
<Casey> You were doing well in first person. If you can resolve the description and extraneous information problem, then I think you have a good start.
<shorty103> I am still working at it,
<Chipmonk> Even if your writing first person, it doesn't have to be you, or rather, exactly like you.
<Chipmonk> I write first person as a 31 year old guy.
<Chipmonk> 21.
<shorty103> yes, I do understand that, but I might be able to give more detail in some parts of the story
<Casey> Geez, Chip! Male and human, too. You do have a good imagination.
<crip> i feel sorry for you then, chip. i hope he is a smart one. *L*
<Chipmonk> I watch the two leggeds.
<Chipmonk> Well, he's smarter than he lets on even to himself.
<shorty103> well, not trying to be smart, I am starting to feel smarter and I had realized
<Casey> give more detail, writing in first person?
<shorty103> yes, I will try that Casey
<shorty103> and = than
<Chipmonk> You can use your life but fictionalize it.
<Chipmonk> Oh, heres one for your sayings thing on Delphi Casey.
<Casey> What? What?
<Chipmonk> Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
<shorty103> yes, that is what I am doing, there are some things I don't remember and what I do, I am trying to put it in a way that only the people who know me will understand
<Chipmonk> Or rather the facts.
<shorty103> yes the facts, yet some are very shallow
<Casey> Is that a quote from someone? Seems I've heard that one before.
<crip> speaking of delphi, i think the nw after the next one should be about her current controversial subject
<Chipmonk> Don't just rely on the facts , create a story fill in the blanks .
<crip> "Just the facts' ma'am, just the facts" ?
<Chipmonk> Facts are for journalists.
<shorty103> what quote Casey
<shorty103> who crip
<Casey> Which current controversial subject? Writing Sex?
<Casey> Crip?
<Casey> The quote Chip just gave, Rose.
<Chipmonk> Its like the difference between a photo of a tree and a painting. Both a tree, but the painting leaves room for self expreeiom and interpretsation.
<crip> yeah that one
<shorty103> interesting way of putting chip
<Casey> Why, Crip? You're bloodthirsty? You want to see me butchered in public, in person?
<Chipmonk> I'm sorry all. I'm going to have to go to bed, I'm really woozy.
<Casey> Very appropriate way of putting it, Chip.
<shorty103> okay, thanks for your input chip
<Casey> Oh, please go take care of yourself.
<Casey> Goodnight, Chip.
<Chipmonk> 3 hours sleep last night, ugh!
<shorty103> get some sleeep chip
<shorty103> I like the way she put that, between the painting and a photo
<Casey> Chip is good.
<crip> i think it would make a good chat.
<shorty103> yes she is, and so are you
<crip> i wouldn't go that far
<crip> *L*
<Casey> Thank you, Rose. *smacks Crip*
<shorty103> casey that is
<Casey> on the arm, that is.
<crip> they are both good teachers *rubs smacked skull*
<shorty103> oh, I feel for you crip but I can't reach!
<crip> back off!
<crip> *L*
<Casey> lol!
<shorty103> here's a big cyber kiss for you instead crip
<crip> i'm just going to send my homeless person to NW next time. this is dangerous
<crip> oh even worse!!!! *L*
<Casey> Oohhhh! Sex in writing. (That was a groan.)
<crip> sure it wa
<crip> was
<Casey> What can we discuss in workshop that isn't being discussed in Delphi?
<crip> i like your delphi discussion and i think it would make a good topic and i'm gonna ask zen
<crip> *L*
<crip> uh
<shorty103> oh dear, I haven't thought of anything yet
<crip> character development?
<crip> *L*
<Casey> Oh, you rat! Going to Zen!
<crip> he he he he he he
<shorty103> yes, that is a good one crip
<crip> i may not like him but he gets the job done!
<crip> *L*
<shorty103> what's wrong with Zen
<crip> just sarcasm, rose
<Casey> Only 'cause he's mean and bullies people, you say that?
<crip> yeah and he can bully you! *L*
<Casey> Do you want an enumerated list, or just general complaints, Rose?
<shorty103> well, I don't know him, well, I don't even talk to him much on here
<Casey> yes, he can! grump!
<crip> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
<crip> you're lucky then rose
<shorty103> I don't understand Casey
<shorty103> want is enumerated list???
<Casey> We're teasing, Rose. We tell Zen to his face how mean we think he is. He agrees and tells us what our next project is.
<shorty103> oh okay
<Casey> enumerated means, 1, 2, 3, etc.
<Casey> a numbered list.
<crip> like casey is an enumerated pain in the rear
<crip> he he he he
<Casey> Sorry! Can't think of words I need the first time!
<shorty103> understood now that you have explained it, I should have known that
<Casey> And just which number might that be, Mr. Crip?
<crip> endless!
<crip> he he he
<shorty103> crip is getting nasty
<crip> infinity plus one!
<Casey> "getting"? Naw. He always is.
<crip> ha ha ha darn straight I am!
<Casey> Zen was his mentor once.
<shorty103> like some other you know too right Casey
<Casey> (Take that, you fiendish Crip!)
<crip> long ago in a galaxy far far away
<crip> he was your mentor too!
<Casey> "was"? Still is.
<shorty103> yeah yeah, we've heard all before
<crip> REALLY?
<crip> *LOL*
<crip> oh lord..
<Casey> Well, now that I'm talking to him again.
<shorty103> that cat just scared the living daylights out of me
<crip> yeah
<Casey> I have to keep up on latest meanesses I can use on others!
<crip> casey, saw a wonderful movie today that should be shown to idiot kids who think they could make it in prison
<crip> called American History X
<Casey> never heard of that one.
<Casey> Is it on video?
<crip> sort of a small film thats out now about the stupidity of racism
<shorty103> I heard of it, but never seen it
<crip> no, just in theatres
<Casey> Oh, good! I can bully Harold into taking me to the movies!
<Casey> A date!
<shorty103> wow! Casey a real movie
<Casey> How do I act? what do I wear?
<crip> uh that is NOT a date movie
<crip> trust me
<Casey> Hey, for us, going to a funeral is a date.
<crip> wait till next week when the new BABE the Pig movie comes out
<shorty103> but there are other movies to chose from
<crip> ewwww necrophelia!
<Casey> Oh, good! We own Babe, the original movie. Hope the sequel is just as good.
<crip> wow you actually saw a movie i own. AMAZING
<shorty103> well, have you ever heard of the Marx Brother,
<Casey> Okay, tell me now: is there a lot of blood and stabbing and stuff in American History X?
<crip> um a little
<crip> lots of language
<crip> very bad bad scene in the prison...don't bend for the soap
<Casey> What's your definition of "little"?
<Casey> Eyes Crip suspiciously.
<crip> a little blood not much
<Casey> Okay. I can handle that.
<crip> very powerful movie though not gratuitous
<Casey> Prison is not gratuitious. Apropos.
<shorty103> Casey, his little could turn out to be a lot
<crip> i meant, the violence
<Casey> No, I trust Crip. We've had this blood and guts discussion before.
<crip> yeah braveheart wussy!
<crip> hahahahahahahahahaha
<shorty103> okay
<Casey> He won't marry me because I've never seen braveheart all the way through.
<crip> watching jaws now...kiddie film
<crip> he
<shorty103> yeah, for me to watch something like that, well I couldn't
<shorty103> now braveheart is a yes for me, I have the video
<Casey> I have the video, too, but eating Xmas dinner, which included ketschup, and watching the movie, did not go over well.
<crip> they have pornos at this place i'm gonna work at. i have to rent these to old people. ewwwww
<shorty103> I don't think it would for me either
<crip> yeah since xmas dinner ended up on the tv
<crip> *L*
<Casey> Harold will be there --- Tuesday, you said?
<crip> *L* yup
<shorty103> good luck crip
<crip> thanx
<Casey> dinner could have ended up on the TV, but Harold did not trick me into opening my eyes before all the bloody stuff had finished.
<crip> oh darn! whats the fun in that???
<Casey> We're a stodgy old couple. What can you expect?
<shorty103> anyway folks, my wrist is getting very sore, so I am going to say good night, I will talk to you later and crip I will see you next week okay, Casey tomorrow I mean! nite
<crip> nite
<Casey> I mean, our big excitement is cruising ebay looking for a rope drum we have no place to store.
<crip> wow big excitement
<Casey> I'm usually not online on Sundays.
<Casey> Goodnight, rose.
<crip> it's her day off
<crip> freeloader
<crip> *L*
<shorty103> okay
<Casey> Take care.
<shorty103> nite
<Casey> poke, poke.
<crip> ow
<Casey> It's just you and me now!
<crip> oh no!!!!!!
<crip> *jumping in the ocean with Jaws*
<crip> *L*
<Casey> Watch your mouth, because I can beat you to a pulp now and no one would believe that I'd do such a thing.
<crip> he he he
<crip> Rose would
<crip> maybe
<Casey> No, she'll testify on my behalf. She's brainwashed.
<crip> I know
<crip> I can tell
<Casey> Very easy laundering job.
<crip> *L*
<Casey> I get very uneasy with some of her gushings.
<crip> aren't you the queen of NW?
<crip> he he
<Casey> I distrust people who do that.
<Casey> No, I'm the queen of New Kent Avenue.
<crip> New Kent Avenue?
<Casey> Ask Harold.
<crip> oh ok
<Casey> The street we live on.
<crip> why do you distrust them? I say it all the time and mean it. he he he he
<Casey> You do? Oh, yeah, right. you do.
<Casey> Yeah, but you balance it out by calling me names.
<crip> oh i see how it works
<crip> where is the big H anyway? playing?
<Casey> Sleeping. He's off tonight!
<Casey> He lit all the candles in the livingroom and was sitting in the dark listening to music earlier.
<crip> and you're still on the comp?? the poor man
<crip> *L*
<Casey> Only because I manged to get it away from him.
<crip> sounds romantic and here you are chattig to the masses *L*
<crip> chatting
<Casey> He's had his romantic day this week. And he's not given up hope yet this evening.
<Casey> ewwwwww!
<crip> good for him. ewwww?
<Casey> I was anticipating your usual reaction.
<crip> whats my usual reaction?
<Casey> ewwwwww!
<Casey> See, you still surprise me.
<crip> oh
<Casey> By not responding typically.
<crip> i'm ewwwed out for the week
<Casey> Must have been a tough week.
<Casey> Or your rush of social engagements has mellowed you.
<crip> nah
<Casey> Or perhaps the release of tension and anxiety due to sudden employment?
<crip> have to mellow out so i can be nice to customers
<Casey> Ahhh. You're practicing.
<Casey> Good for you.
<crip> i can pick up chicks at the video store!!!! ewwwwwwwwwwww
<crip> *LOL*
<Casey> Relief! the real Crip is alive and well!
<Casey> chuckling.
<crip> heh
<crip> brb
<Casey> okay
<Casey> I can see it now: you'll only ask out girls whose video lending habits coincide with your own personal movie preferences.
<Casey> lending should have been "renting"
<Casey> I'd recommend a checklist approach, however.
<Casey> "Do you cook full meals?"
<crip> ok here i am
<Casey> "Can you construct a tool shed?"
<crip> i cook, no woman has to cook
<Casey> "do you mow grass?"
<crip> ok i know nothing about tools or sheds or tool sheds
<Casey> Point made. So your mate must be competent at those skills.
<Casey> Make a list of everything you can't do or don't want to do and find a woman who does all those things.
<crip> ok
<Casey> And pray she's not already married by the time you find her.
<crip> ha ha
<crip> makes no difference anyway *LOL*
<Casey> hey, they get snatched up quickly!
<crip> shouldn't you be tending to your poor husband? since he's going to all this trouble to get a rope drum for you?
<Casey> That's right. The eternal bachelor.
<Casey> LOL! Yeah. Right.
<Casey> He should be on bread and water for a month for that.
<crip> *L* now now
<Casey> Whow! It *is* 1:30 a.m., isn't it?
<crip> my point, exactly. poor harold. *L*
<Casey> I'm not tired. Maybe the 2 1/2 nap had something to do with that.
<crip> hey, me too! *L*
<Casey> Sneak in those naps while you still can!
<Casey> Your life as you know it is about to end.
<Casey> Not to scare you or anything . . .
<crip> why is my life going to end?
<Casey> You're about to enter the wonderful world of work! Paid holidays and vacation plans!
<Casey> (Is this a full-time employment position? I need the info to continue this ad )
<crip> i don't get paid holidays just time and a half and the only day they're closed is xmas day. no vacation either.
<crip> depends. holidays is full time, the rest is part
<Casey> Oh. I thought they were supposed to promise you the world until they got you, and then you learned the brutal truth.
<Casey> Why, they've already taken all the fun out of this
<crip> nope
<crip> yup
<crip> i can deal with it until I sell my novel
<Casey> Okay.
<crip> yeah right *L8
<crip> *L*
<Casey> I feel better than. You have A Plan!
<crip> The Man with the Plan
<Casey> There ya go!
<Casey> So in discussing sex in NW, do I continue my pious stance, or just discuss all facets of the issue?
<crip> both
<Casey> Am I converting anyone, or preaching to the believers?
<crip> converting
<Casey> Ahhhh. Now that's more fun.
<Casey> A challenge.
<Casey> But *sniff* in a month . . . no, a week . . . they'll forget my words and go out and do whatever they darn well want to anyway.
<Casey> The heathens!
<crip> no they won't
<Casey> Dramatically touches wrist to forehead. Sighs to beat all sighs.
<Casey> Considers swooning. Scraps that idea.
<Casey> heck! there's no one to impress!
<crip> *LOL* impress the rope drum!
<Casey> All these dramatics for nothing.
<Casey> It's a pretty rope drum.
<Casey> But he's looking for others, to compare with. Then maybe he'll bid on it.
<crip> hahahahahahahahahahahaha
<crip> nevermind...
<Casey> uh-oh. I suspect a bad thought.
<Casey> Anytime Crip says "nevermind" is a bad sign.
<crip> bad thoughts? me???
<Casey> Yeah. However could I think such a thing.
<Casey> Must have been temporary leave a senses.
<crip> i don't know. i'm shocked.
<Casey> So, ya gonna tell me?
<Casey> huh, huh?
<crip> huh?
<Casey> ooooo-kay! *looks downhearted. Dejected even.*
<crip> i feel so terrible now
<crip> ashamed even
<Casey> Then stop feeling yourself.
<crip> *ROTFL* yeah right!
<crip> hey whoa that almost sounded zen-like
<Casey> I'm actually blushing. that was sooo bad!
<crip> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
<Casey> Giggling. Sorrry!
<crip> poor poor harold
<crip> he has to put up with this
<Casey> It's all Zen's fault! He's a bad influence on me! I was never this way before I met him.
<crip> yeah you were probably worse!
<Casey> Who told!?
<Casey> No, no. that's not right. I was sweet and demure and kind to animals.
<crip> harold told me in our secret meetings
<crip> yeah, sure you were *LOL*
<Casey> That's it! I'm not letting him "practice" using ICQ any more!
<Casey> I'm cutting him off cold!
<Casey> (Darn! No wonder he did so well cutting on the computer for me tonight.)
<crip> ow!!!!! lorena bobbit all over again!!!!!!
<Casey> Bobbit . . . is that a breed of bunny rabbit or something?
<Casey> What a sweet name for a bunny: lorena.
<crip> *L* geez....women
<Casey> yes, I'm sure it's well past my bedtime. I'm now punch-tired instead of punch-drunk.
<Casey> Maybe I should go to bed while you still think I am kewl?
<Casey> Is that the word?
<crip> kewl? ewe? hahahahahahahahahahaha
<crip> go to sleep
<Casey> Okay. goodnight, Crip.
<crip> nitey nite
<Casey> It's been fun, as usual.
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