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<Casey> Dave C send me an email saying he was
coming tonight as well.
<Sea Witch> Are we expecting anyone else, apart
from Rose that is?
<Casey> Git out of my mind, SW!!
<Sea Witch> And Dave <g>
<Sea Witch> Uh, sorry Casey Heh., heh
<Chipmonk> Witchie's reading minds now?
<Casey> Yup.
<Chipmonk> Oh dear!
<kissfan> HEHEE It is so much fun getting into
people's minds isn't it SW
<Casey> She finds mine soft, squishy and
comfortable, because she's always
there.
<Chipmonk> Good thing there's nothing in mine.
<Sea Witch> Soft & comfortable I like but
squishy? Ewwww
<Sea Witch> Hey, Casey. Did they catch
the witch who nicked the turkey and
then pulled a moonlight?
<Casey> Yeah, she showed up back in D.C.
<Casey> Turkey in tow.
<Sea Witch> Bugger!
<Casey> I did a really doofus thing. I
slammed my grammar book closed
without marking the place and I can't relocate the
page which contained
tonight's grammar lesson.
<Sea Witch> Oops! Does that mean we can
have fun instead?
<Chipmonk> I'm really excited about tonight.
<Casey> Naw. I found a similar one.
Sorry.
<Chipmonk> Casey is going to teach us bad
words.
<kissfan> OOPS Casey I thought I was the only
one that did things like that
HEHEE
<Sea Witch> REally? I'm all eyes!
<Casey> Tonight's grammar lesson is about
made-up words.
<Sea Witch> I can relate to that. I've
had to invent a whole mess of them
for my book!
<Casey> Some, I'm sorry to report, have made it
into the dictionary, simply
through widespread use.
<Sea Witch> Oh, THOSE made up words
<Casey> Yeah. THOSE words.
<Casey> The one I can remember from before the
page slamming was host, used
as hosted.
<Casey> The noun, host, is a person (male of
hostess)
<Chipmonk> As in hosted a chat?
<Casey> yes, Chip. Exactly.
<Casey> That's a noun used as a verb.
<Casey> Bad form.
<Sea Witch> But there is no such word as
hostessed a chat. I call that
discrimination!
<Casey> That never stopped word inventors!
<kissfan> YA Sw HEHEE
<Chipmonk> What are you supposed to say?
<Casey> There used to be only chairmen.
Now there are chairwomen.
<Chipmonk> Or just chairs.
<Sea Witch> Or, if you want to be PC -
chairperson
<Casey> Mary was the hostess of the chat?
<Casey> I'm trying to think how you would
express that situation.
<Sea Witch> Why is it that TV chat hostesses
have blokes names?
<Casey> PC-ness created a lot of this
confusion.
<Chipmonk> The chair of the committee. or He
chaired the committee.
<Chipmonk> Like everyone has to stand up at the
meeting cuz there's only
one chair.
<Sea Witch> Un PC peaple say "Oi, yes you,
the snobby git on the platform!"
<Casey> The other one I hate is persons, used
as the plural of person.
<Sea Witch> As in person or persons unknown?
<Sea Witch> What else would you call the plural
of person?
<Casey> Or, we contacted the persons who would
attend the convention.
<Casey> people!
<Chipmonk> Aboriginal persons?
<Sea Witch> Do you prefer the word
"people"?
<Casey> Absolutely. It is the legitimate
plural of person.
<Sea Witch> Oh sod it. I've done it again
haven't I
<Casey> I suspect that it came about in use as
an attempt to make people
seem individual when mentioned collectively (and
perpetrated through sheer
ignorance of those who slept through grammar in
school).
<kissfan> HEHEE
<Sea Witch> Persons unknown is a legal term in
the UK
<Casey> I've had to admit it's now a battle
I'll never win singlehandedly.
<Sea Witch> The statutes are supposedly written
by educated people
<Casey> legal terminology is a class all its
own.
<Chipmonk> How do you feel about peoples.
<Sea Witch> Legal terminology is on a planet of
its own!
<kissfan> LOL True SW
<Sea Witch> That doesn't make much sense to
me. How can you pluralise a
plural?
<Casey> It seems a little more legitimate than
persons, because its meant
to indicate people of different nationalities.
<Chipmonk> Aboriginal peoples-meaning a lot of
different native social
groups, or races.
<Sea Witch> I would use multinationals
<Casey> Would it take an 's though, like
children's? That I'm not sure
about.
<Chipmonk> Multinationals means they
belong to more than one nation.
<Sea Witch> OK, multicultural then
<Sea Witch> Most countries seem to wave that
particular flag.
<Chipmonk> They belong to more than one
culture.
<Casey> Utilize is another word that can be
found in the dictionary, but is
better substituted by "use."
<Chipmonk> As in mommie was French and Daddie
was a pygmy.
<Casey> The Elements of Style agrees with me.
<Sea Witch> Yes, but they are all American or
all French. One people. I
don't like using peoples
<Casey> I don't like using peoples, either.
<kissfan> me either
<Chipmonk> Did use and utilize used to mean two
different things?
<Casey> The people of the world gives the same
information as The peoples
of the world.
<Sea Witch> The word USE itself is an abused
word
<Chipmonk> No it doesn't.
<kissfan> and sounds better too Casey
<Casey> The second gives an impression of
separateness, but is that
especially crucial?
<Chipmonk> The people of the world means
everybody--peoples is more like
the cultures of the world.
<Sea Witch> I think Chip has a point there
<Chipmonk> When do you use and when do you
utilize?
<Sea Witch> But I would use cultures rather
than peoples
<Chipmonk> Good idea.
<Casey> Can you think of a case when use can't
or shouldn't be substituted
for utilize?
<Chipmonk> When the power company hooks up your
gas and electric?
<Casey> You use the power and gas supplied by
the company.
<kissfan> I thought that was utilities. Chip
<Chipmonk> No, guess not that would be
utilitize.
<Sea Witch> You can use a book to write things
down but you could hardly
utilize it
<Casey> But I've read where people have
utilized the information in the
book.
<Chipmonk> Hmm, do you utilize something that
doesn't get used up?
<Sea Witch> That is because they "make
practical use of" the information
<Casey> You also use something that doesn't get
used up.
<Sea Witch> but you couldn't utilse the book
because that makes no
grammatical sense
<Casey> That's not the dictionary definition,
though. Hold on a sec and
I'll find it for you.
<Chipmonk> I don't know the difference
then--other than trying to sound
high falootin'
<Casey> to put to use; turn to profitable
account.
<Casey> That's the entire definition(s) of
utilize.
<Sea Witch> You can use your discretion but to
utilise it adds another
dimension
<Casey> With the second definition, yes, it
does. But I suspect that the
majority of time it's used, it's with the intention
of impressing someone
with an important-sounding word.
<Sea Witch> likewise you can use your
car. utilising your car means
something specific
<Sea Witch> use is more generic than utilise.
<Casey> There are the made-up phrases, too,
that abound in government
offices.
<Chipmonk> My car is in the shop. Can I
utilize yours?
<Sea Witch> utilise That tells me you have a
specific purpose for its use
<kissfan> LOL good one, Chip
<Casey> Chip taught me "getting out of the
box" last night, then Harold
told me that a variation of it in his office is
"thinking out of the box."
<Sea Witch> What does that mean?
<Casey> It gives the impression that government
employees feel confined and
restricted by their jobs!
<Chipmonk> Oh duh!
<kissfan> box = cubicle
<Casey> It means to consider options beyond
what is considered normal or
usual.
<Sea Witch> We take showers in cubicles
<Sea Witch> You mean - use your initiative
<Casey> It seems more to mean, stretch your
imagination; find creative or
unusual solutions.
<Chipmonk> As in the people in the state
employment office can't imagine
serving customers without a counter between staff and
customers.
<Sea Witch> That's so there's something solid
to catch their falling jaws
when they come across a truly original lie
<Casey> But--but--they've got cooties!!
<kissfan> LOL Casey
<Chipmonk> We had a woman from the central
office come and physically
remove the poles and chains used for line
control--twice!
<Chipmonk> Those people could not think outside
the box.
<Sea Witch> That's probably cos the poles
complained about racial
harrassment
<Casey> There's a name for these made-up
phrases. They're called
neologisms.
<Chipmonk> Lol witchie.
<Casey> (Just a bit of trivia for your
enlightenment.)
<Sea Witch> <g>
<Chipmonk> Is it okay to say neologizing?
<Casey> I'd have to recommend: Look it up
in the dictionary, chip.
<Sea Witch> how about - neologistic?
<Chipmonk> Awwwww.
<Casey> Okay, you guys ready to fall in love
now?
<Sea Witch> We must all be neologists
heh, heh
<Sea Witch> I love you guys! Will
that do?
<Casey> affecting linkages is definitely a
neologism. It's using old words
and changing their meaning by combining them.
<Chipmonk> 8>
<kissfan> AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW SW
<Casey> Good start, Witchie.
<Chipmonk> That's a heart.
<Sea Witch> You mean like - crapsitorial?
<Casey> I was going to start by giving you each
10 minutes to write a love
scene.
<Sea Witch> Thnak you Chip
<Casey> LOL, SW!!
<Chipmonk> What is crapsitorial?
<kissfan> I am not that great at love scenes
LOL
<Sea Witch> Haven't a clue. Sounds good
though doesn't it Heh, heh
<Casey> Secret: I'm still not that good,
but I'm learning!
<Casey> It sounds great!
<kissfan> OK HEHEE
<Chipmonk> Sounds like Edwina's fashion sense.
<Sea Witch> I haven't got past the animal
passion stage yet.
<Sea Witch> Who's Edwina?
<Chipmonk> On Ab Fab.
<kissfan> Mine always comes out sounding like
something out of a sex novel
HEHEE
<Sea Witch> Yeah! Definitely crapsitorial
<Chipmonk> Oh no that's crapsartorial.
<Sea Witch> You were GOING to give us ten
minutes?
<Sea Witch> LOL Chip
<Chipmonk> Ooops!
<Casey> Well, write whatever kind of love scene
you guys are familiar with,
then let's discover some "secrets" to
making them a tad bit better,
perhaps.
<Casey> And if you're chattering, you're not
writing!
<Chipmonk> Do I have to get in the waste
basket?
<Sea Witch> ZZZIIIIPPPP!!!!
<Casey> You can remain out of the waste basket
if you begin writing now.
<Chipmonk> Yes ma'am. Thank you ma'am.
<Casey> Anyone who's finished writing can post
their scene at any time.
<Chipmonk> They sat on the bench together
everyday waiting for the bus.
Sometimes they spoke. Nice weather and so
on. Today she was quietly
reading to herself, one hand holding a small book,
the other resting
lightly on the wood of the bench. He watched that
hand as if it were a
small bird that could easily be frightened away. Her
nails were short, but
not too short. Neatly manicured with clear polish so
that the light glinted
off of them. Her fingers made tiny movements as
if to comment on what she
was reading. Slowly he placed his own hand on the
wood, inches from her
delicate fingertips. His moved closer to hers,
approaching tentatively.
The bus came. She closed her book, smiled at him and
rose to catch her bus.
He sighed. Maybe tomorrow, or the day after
that.
<Chipmonk> Ouch!
<Casey> Oops! Turn down your volume,
Chip.
<Casey> Sorry, guys. That's an obnoxious
practice, but I don't have any
other way of getting the attention of people who are
off screen.
<Casey> He looked up. His eyes gleamed
like dark crystals in Ryna's cool
light. "Do I really have a choice?"
he asked.
<Casey> She shook her head.
<Casey> "Then maybe my example will
encourage others to face what they
must. There is some good in it, after
all."
<Casey> He regarded her for an uncomfortably
long time. When he reached
up and removed her veil, she did not question
his actions. But when he
leaned forward and pressed his lips to hers,
she tensed. Not until he
forced air into her mouth did she understand
his intention. Then she
breathed in, held the breath through a pounding
heartbeat, and returned
it.
<Casey> They had shared water following his
arrival, now they'd shared
breath: both essential elements of life.
That sharing was part of the
ritual that made her janquer and was a poignant
reminder of their
inseparable purposes. She opened
her eyes and watched him pull away.
<Casey> He stared down at his hands where they
gripped his thighs.
<Casey> Yutrenta licked the moisture from her
lips.
<Casey> He rose and helped her to her
feet. "I should have warned you," he
apologized. He did not release her
hand.
<Sea Witch> Don snuggled up to the sleeping
form of his wife. With each
breath he could feel the gentle pressure of her spine
against his chest.
His hands encompassed her waist and pulled her
closer until she filled the
contours of his own body. She stirred and
murmured drowsy, nonsensical
words. His hands moved up and explored her
familiar buxomness. He
lingered there a while, stroking and caressing,
nuzzling her neck with his
lips. All the while she muttered small
contented words. His hands
wandered along the plumpness of her belly and
continued on. She turned
then and thrust her face into his.
"What," she asked sweetly, "don't you
understand about the word NO?"
<Casey> LOL! Before the ending, my
glasses were getting foggy!
<Sea Witch> Heh, heh, heh
<Chipmonk> And where is Kissfan's?
<Casey> She must be breathing heavily by now!
<kissfan> LOL I just finished it
<Casey> We're waiting with bated breath for
yours, Kathy!
<kissfan> Stephen watched Carrie as she
stood at the ship's railing the
wind blowing against her making her dress cling to
her body. To him she
looked like an angel ready to take flight. He
had seen her many times
since they had come aboard the ship. She felt
his eyes on her and turned
to meet his gaze, She smiled at him. He walked
over toward her glad that
she had answered the message to meet on the deck. The
light of the full
moon shined down on her making her more beautiful to
him than before. He
took her gently into his arms and kissed her gently.
Carrie felt her knees
weeken from his kiss. She knew at that moment that
she didn't want to be
anywhere else but in his arms forever.
<Russ> So what is the premise of the exercise?
Romance plain and simple?
<Casey> Tonight's topic is Romance.
<Casey> (I swallowed my pride and borrowed a
How to Write Romance Novels
book from the library.)
<Chipmonk> Oh gross!
<Russ> Learn anything?
<Casey> I was hoping the librarian would slip
it into a plain brown paper
bag, but she didn't.
<Chipmonk> Do you have a contribution Russ?
<Sea Witch> I'm not too good on romance. I
always end up getting biological
<Russ> Hmmm. Give me a minute.
<Casey> Okay.
<Chipmonk> No, seawitch, that's sex, not
romance.
<Casey> We'll wait for you.
<Russ> (You just want something from a male
<g>)
<kissfan> LOL I get carried away most of the
time when I try to write
romance scenes
<Sea Witch> Not in this case it isn't.
Actually I'm re-enacting from real
life!
<Sea Witch> LOL
<Casey> Real life is the best material to write
from.
<Casey> That's why your writing has such
realism.
<Sea Witch> Blush!
<Casey> Kathy's reminds me of the scene from
Titanic.
<kissfan> That was the hardest one for me to
come up with that fast
<Chipmonk> My characters always get interrupted
by phones etc.
<Casey> That's real-life, Chip!
<Sea Witch> That's most unfortunate, Chip.
<Sea Witch> Have they never heard on
answerphones?
<kissfan> Ya you are right it kind of does
sound like that HEHEE
<Chipmonk> I like witchies being two settled
married people. You rarely
see romance between the married.
<kissfan> And I wasn't even thinking about that
when I wrote it LOL
<Sea Witch> Your romantic streak is better
developed than mine. I have a
tendency to write the bare bones and leave it to the
readers imagination
<Chipmonk> Kissfan's was kind of sexy with the
see through dress.
<Sea Witch> I don't call being woken up in the
early hours ROMANCE! I call
it lousy timing. <g>
<kissfan> LOL me too SW
<Casey> That's a good practice,
Witchie. Readers' imaginations are more
vivid than the words we have at our disposal.
<Chipmonk> True.
<Sea Witch> Our minds are the most potent
sexual organ we possess
<Casey> Yep.
<Chipmonk> Especially if you're a conehead.
<Casey> Chip!
<kissfan> LOL Chip
<Sea Witch> ROFL!!!!
<Casey> There's never a dull moment with our
beloved chipmonk around.
<Chipmonk> Now do I have to go in the waste
basket?
<Sea Witch> What's with the waste basket?
<Casey> When she's bad, she has to sit in the
waste basket.
<Sea Witch> But that was GOOD!
<Casey> I know. I'm not sending her to
the waste basket tonight.
<Chipmonk> Casey put on my report card that I
was a disruptive influence in
class.
<Sea Witch> Nothing wrong with that is there?
<Sea Witch> Mind you, being a rodent rather
than a goldfish means you don't
get flushed down the bog for misbehaving
<Chipmonk> No! No! Don't flush me!!
<Casey> There are definitely worse fates than
being a chipmonk.
<Sea Witch> Wouldn't think of it. With
all that fur Chipmonks would surely
float!
<kissfan> HEHEE true
<Casey> Or clog the drain pipe.
<Chipmonk> Russ is almost as slow as
Gosh. Is that a guy thing?
<kissfan> It must be LOL
<Russ> give a guy a break. I'm reading
while I'm typing
<Chipmonk> (changing subject out of fear)
<Sea Witch> He probably can't get past the part
where he's ripping off her
smalls. Heh, heh
<Chipmonk> Smalls?
<Sea Witch> underwear
<Casey> Her undies?
<Chipmonk> A bodice ripper, heh?
<Sea Witch> you got it Casey
<Chipmonk> knickers?
<Casey> Now, now! You're thinking the
worst of Russ.
<Casey> He knows he's outnumbered in this hen
house.
<Sea Witch> Bwark! Bwark!
<kissfan> HEHEE ya he knows he has to be
careful with all us women in here
<Chipmonk> Tum tee tum.
<Sea Witch> I don't know that one can you hum a
few more bars?
<Chipmonk> There was an old pirate named Bates
<Sea Witch> Who lived in the United States
<Casey> The one thing each of you knew--as
demonstrated in your scenes--was
that romantic scenes are more actions, feelings, and
thoughts than words
(dialogue).
<Chipmonk> Who thought he could cha cha on
skates.
<Chipmonk> lots of touching.
<Sea Witch> Lots of feeling <g>
<Sea Witch> And LOTS of action
<Casey> Well, your scene didn't involve
touching at all, but I didn't
mistake his intentions/desires.
<Chipmonk> No, that's sex.
<Sea Witch> Good job Zen isn't around
<Sea Witch> Men have no idea of the vast ocean
of difference between
romance and sex
<Chipmonk> He fell on his cutless.
<Casey> Sex is different from romance.
<Russ> Excuse me, SW?
<Sea Witch> Yes?
<kissfan> OOPS LOL Sw you just got caught
<Chipmonk> And now he is nutless.
<Sea Witch> Red handed I'm afraid.
<kissfan> yep looks that way LOL
<Russ> Not all men are oversexed pigs who don't
know how to romance a
woman...Just most of us are.
<Chipmonk> And practically useless on dates.
<Sea Witch> LOL Russ
<Casey> (Don't ever make broad, sweeping
assumptions!)
<Chipmonk> Do men like romance or is it just a
tool?
<Sea Witch> Romance is giving the girl enough
time to get her pantyhose off
<Chipmonk> Witchie!
<Casey> foreplay is driving to the girl's
apartment.
<kissfan> or running for the bedroom LOL
<Casey> I knew this was a chancy topic to
address!
<Chipmonk> Do they enjoy the chase?
<Sea Witch> I'm quoting from real life here
Casey. English men have to be
taught that foreplay doesn't involve a game of soccer
before going home to
the wife/girlfriend
<Chipmonk> Heck, my guy couldn't even get up
the nerve to touch the girls
fingers.
<Casey> WHERE is your love scene, Russ?!
<Russ> I waited a year to get my first date
with my wife. Is that enough
patience for you?
<Chipmonk> Did you enjoy it though?
<Casey> (uhhh, I wouldn't use indefinite
pronouns tonight, Chip.)
<Chipmonk> Russ, did you enjoy the romance of
pursuing your wife?
<kissfan> HEHEE ya really, Chip
<Casey> Russ, I must believe, is off rewriting
his scene.
<Chipmonk> Oh, I just got what you meant.
<Russ> Yes, chip. It was well worth
it. In all facets.
<Chipmonk> Good to know.
<Sea Witch> And you got the girl in the
end. That's real romantic Russ
<Casey> what's even more romantic is that he's
still in love with her.
<Sea Witch> Cool!
<Russ> Alright, here it is.
<Russ> 's breath caught in her throat.
How many years had it been? Five?
Ten? John looked the same...no, better.
He wore a blue, double breasted
suit. It had to be Italian, probably hand
made. Black shoes polished to a
mirror reflection poked out under the crisp cuff of
his pants. He reached
up to adjust the double winsor knot of his tie, and
she remembered his
hands. Strong hands. Long slender
fingers. Hands that knew her every
curve, her every crevice intimately. She felt
her mouth open slightly and
a sigh escape her. She ran her tongue over her
lips. Instictively, she
ran her hands down her body, smoothing out her
polyester dress from Wards.
He looked her way. She saw the quick light of
recognition in his ice blue
eyes. He smiled, showing off perfectly white
teeth, even whiter than his
shirt. She found herself smiling in reply as he
headed toward her across
the park. Her thighs tightend, her pulse
raced.
<Russ> e. God, it's great to see
you. How have you been?"
<Russ> John." He stood right
in front of her. She couldn't control
herself any more. "Just fine."
She slapped him.
<Russ> rd."
<Sea Witch> There's a bit of history we're
missing here methinks
<Russ> Really?
<kissfan> Ya just a bit LOL
<Sea Witch> You ended your narrative at an
interesting point
<Chipmonk> Heehee. Kind of like Witchies. A
twist to the end.
<Russ> That's point, ain't it?
<Sea Witch> I never twist Mr. SW's end
<Russ> LOL
<kissfan> Ya that may hurt a bit
<Chipmonk> Tsk tsk
<Sea Witch> Waste basket?
<Casey> Each one of the submissions uses body
language as part of the
characters' reactions.
<Casey> Russ used more than anyone else.
<Sea Witch> No way fair. He had more
time! <g>
<Russ> Do you think that is a male/female
thing?
<kissfan> ya really
<Casey> Maybe.
<Chipmonk> No.
<Chipmonk> Witchie was holding back.
<Casey> Thank goodness!
<Sea Witch> Heh heh
<Chipmonk> Ya really.
<Russ> BRB...coffee rental return time
<Chipmonk> Lol!
<Sea Witch> Huh? You rent your coffee?
<Sea Witch> I hate to think what the returns
are
<Chipmonk> Hey! I got that one!
<Casey> Shall we list some of the body
language used in romantic
situations?
<kissfan> I ended up rewriting it at least 4
times LOL I was getting too
graphic
<Chipmonk> (psst! Witchie! He had to go
to the WC.)
<Casey> Your thought is correct, SW.
<Sea Witch> graphic is bad. I've read
some stuff that is graphic and
tedious. Rampant repetition only manages to
raise yawns!
<Sea Witch> Yeah, I thought so!
<Chipmonk> Insert tab A into slot B.
<Sea Witch> Graphically!
<Chipmonk> How many ways are there to have sex.
<Casey> Agree. I'd rather read something
that points me in the right
direction then lets my imagination take over than to
sit through a
blow-by-blow.
<Chipmonk> Casey!
<Russ> Read the Kama Sutra, Chip.
<Sea Witch> That was an unfortunate phrase to
use Casey
<Chipmonk> I've read it actually.
<Russ> Hehe
<kissfan> LOL Casey
<Casey> sorry!
<Sea Witch> A lot of the stuff in the KS is
physically impossible
<Russ> Personal experience, Sw?
<Chipmonk> Insert lingam A into yoni B.
<kissfan> unless you are a contortionist LOL
<Sea Witch> I mean, who the bloody
hell wants to take time threading rope
through pulleys when all you want is to get down to
basics?
<kissfan> HEHEE not me
<Casey> Ooookay. Back to subject.
Body language.
<Chipmonk> What do you expect from the people
who invented yoga?
<kissfan> true
<Sea Witch> Something more original than
strawberry flavour?
<kissfan> HEHEE
<Chipmonk> Lol!
<kissfan> ok,Casey here is one
<kissfan> Licking lips
<Casey> There's licking lips, pounding heart,
rapid breathing
<Casey> (Thanks, Kathy)
<Sea Witch> People who tie themselves into
tight knots so they don't know
whether they're coming or going?
<kissfan> weak knees
<Casey> flushed skin, dilated eyes
<kissfan> eye contact
<Chipmonk> So far for romance we need touch and
imagination and body
language.
<Russ> grabbing of crotch
<Casey> Russ!!
<kissfan> RUSS!!!!
<Sea Witch> consenting adults?
<Russ> Well, it is body language<g>
<Chipmonk> Just don't get into the earth shook
and fireworks.
<Russ> Heaving mounds of flesh
<Russ> pulsing manhood
<Sea Witch> Are you sure this is Russ and not
Zen in disguise?
<kissfan> HEHEE
<Casey> That's crossing over into porn.
<Chipmonk> That's getting cliche and trite.
<Russ> the petels of her womanhood opened
gently to embrace his pulsing
manhood
<Sea Witch> I don't have petels
<Russ> LOL
<kissfan> Well Russ if you want to go there how
about heaving breasts
<Chipmonk> Oh no! Attack of the HTMs!
<Casey> He already did that with "heaving
mounds of flesh" methinks.
<kissfan> Ya I forgot that LOL
<Sea Witch> A heaving mound of flesh could be
an elephant having a wallow
<Chipmonk> Heave ho! I'm picturing
stevedores or garbage men heaving
breasts.
<Sea Witch> LOL
<Chipmonk> Good one witchie!
<Russ> Gods, I hate romance writing.
<Sea Witch> So do I
<Casey> I do too.
<Chipmonk> Is there romance in your stories,
Russ?
<Chipmonk> Seems I remember some.
<Casey> But romantic subplots can be quite
appealing.
<Russ> Some.
<Casey> Yes, there is Chip.
<Chipmonk> Which is different than imitating
Barbara Cartland.
<Casey> And he has more than Sylone and the
boy.
<Sea Witch> Barbara Cartland sucks!
<Russ> Now, what is wrong with Sylone's kind of
romance, Casey?
<Chipmonk> Now there's a disgusting image.
<Sea Witch> Who's Sylones?
<Sea Witch> LOL Chip
<kissfan> never heard of Sylones
<Russ> Sylone is one of the villains in my
novel, SW
<kissfan> Oh ok
<Sea Witch> Right
<Russ> The last scene of chapter six has him
making love to the freshly
killed corpse of a teenage boy
<Sea Witch> Ewwwww
<kissfan> EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
<Chipmonk> Double ewwww.
<Russ> Just the reaction I hoped for
<Sea Witch> Are you going to raise the bid on
that Casey?
<Chipmonk> What about that guy and the girl and
the monster.
<Casey> One thing to remember in writing, that
the consummation of a
relationship usually ends the "sexual
tension" created by the chase.
<Sea Witch> Yeah, the flowers and chocolates
stop too
<Chipmonk> So you put that off until near the
climax of the novel?
<Russ> Always put blocks between your romantic
leads. Whether imposed by
the characters or from some outside force
<Casey> Yes. Only if the consummation
creates severe complications
afterwards will the tension remain high or become
greater.
<Sea Witch> Yeah, a little something like a
war!
<Chipmonk> So there could be a separation or
something.
<Russ> never let them get together. Write
about unhappy, sexually
frustrated people at all times
<Casey> Yeah, Russ. The coma was quite an
effective block.
<Sea Witch> Not to a neophyte necrophiliac
<Russ> Wait 'til you see the next one, Casey
<g>
<Casey> He's already half dead, Russ! How
can you top that without killing
him?
<Casey> Does that mean that you're returning to
Jaran? Huh, huh?
<kissfan> Well he could die with a smile on his
face HEHEE
<Russ> The next block is psychological on
Jaran's part. Much tougher to
overcome than a mere physical problem.
<Casey> True.
<Chipmonk> So how do we do romance without it
sounding like a Harlequin
novel?
<Casey> And when you have someone pursuing
someone else, don't forget about
motivations!
<Casey> People in love have reasons for picking
the person they're in
pursuit of, just as they have motivations for picking
the job they chose.
<Sea Witch> I chose Mr SW for his sense of
humour
<Chipmonk> He'd have to have one to keep up
with you.
<Sea Witch> LOL
<Russ> What is the first thing you notice in
someone you find attractive?
(open question)
<Casey> We usually chose someone we respect or
admire, who listens to us
and hears what we're saying (or saying badly).
<Sea Witch> I find a well filled pair of jeans
attractive. <g>
<Casey> (Is that attraction different from mere
physical attractiveness,
Russ?)
<kissfan> LOL Actually the first thing I
actually notice is someone's eyes
<Casey> A smile, a sense of humor is definitely
attractive.
<Sea Witch> The way someone's eyes
sparkle. The timbre of their voice.
<Sea Witch> Deep voices (men's that is) are so
sensual
<Russ> Yes, Casey. However, it is hard to
WANT to get to know someone
better if you don't find something about them
physically attractive
<Chipmonk> Intelligence of their conversation
and whether it is one sided
or do they actually listen.
<Russ> At least from a male point of view
<Sea Witch> I knew Mr. SW had fallen under the
spell when he offered to
sacrifice his PC for me LOL
<Casey> Have you ever noticed sometimes (in a
barroom), that the people
don't seem exceedingly attractive when they enter the
room, but before the
evening's out, their personality makes them seem more
attractive than they
were?
<kissfan> I know someone who listens too much
and doesn't really say that
much. but then surprises you with something that you
mentioned that you
liked months before
<Sea Witch> That's booze oriented perception
<Casey> No. I don't drink and have felt
that way.
<Casey> (It was a bad choice of scenarios, I
admit.)
<Casey> Even at parties, this seems true.
<Chipmonk> The girls all get prettier at
closing time?
<Sea Witch> heh heh
<Russ> On the other hand, I don't really look
at someone's bodily
attributes, I look for a pretty face with great
eyes (not that a good set
of curves doesn't help <g>)
<Casey> Why are we drawn to other people?
<Sea Witch> I got curves. Rather too many
these days.... sigh
<kissfan> LOL me too SW
<Russ> Wanna rent my metabolism? I cannot
gain weight. Been trying for
years
<Chipmonk> Responsiveness.
<Sea Witch> Animal magnetism?
<Casey> As a teenager, I remember the term
"soulmate" being used quite a
bit.
<Chipmonk> Actually for us chipmonks its
pheramones.
<Sea Witch> That's cos chipmonks don't wash!
<kissfan> the way that they carry themselves in
a give situation
<Russ> I dated a girl at college who tried to
get me back by wearing
perfume laced with pig pheramones
<Sea Witch> Phew!!!
<kissfan> yuck!!!!
<Casey> Was that supposed to be sexy?
<Russ> Didn't work on me, but one of my friends
was all over her.
<kissfan> HEHEE
<Sea Witch> I bet his room looked like a pig
sty!
<Casey> Two pigs recognizing one another?!
<Casey> (Ohhh, I am sooo ashamed of myself!)
<Chipmonk> Ummm, a nice butt? But that's
when you're not conversing with
the guy.
<kissfan> LOL true Chip
<Sea Witch> Already done that one.
<g>
<Russ> He did have protruding aopcipital lobes
<Sea Witch> don't they all?
<Chipmonk> I am personally turned off by body
builders.
<Sea Witch> WE call 'em steroid freaks
<Casey> Their whole focus is upon
themselves--they don't have room for
someone else in their lives!
<Casey> Finding someone who is proud of us--of
who we are--is a draw.
<Sea Witch> no, that's an achievement
<Russ> Women body builders are scary. I
would never want anything of mine
between thighs like that
<kissfan> I let someone like that slip through
my fingers, Casey
<kissfan> LOL Russ
<Casey> Don't dwell on past regrets, Kathy.
<Sea Witch> Not when they look like a pair of
nutcrackers anyhow!
<Russ> <shiver>
<Chipmonk> Which is more
attractive--availability or unavailability?
<Sea Witch> unavailability
<kissfan> I'm not Casey. Just learned
from my mistake and am now trying to
fix it LOL
<Sea Witch> People always want what they can't
have
<Russ> Hmmm...Unavailability adds an air of
challenge, which is exciting
<Casey> The how to write harlequin romances
book said to play upon all the
senses, so not overdoing that is one way not to write
harlequin romances.
<Sea Witch> I've never felt inclined to read a
harlequin
<Casey> Unavailability is attractive until you
get it and find out what it
looks like close up on a daily basis.
<Sea Witch> Yeah, like discovering most of what
you wanted is mortgaged to
the local beauty clinic
<Russ> Then it ceases to be unavailable by
definintion, Casey
<Casey> Exactly, Russ.
<Chipmonk> So, how do you all usually approach
romance in your books?
<kissfan> I think people always want what they
can't have.
<Sea Witch> Like evicting a spider from the
bath
<Russ> The chase, the hunt, is much more
exciting and tantalizing than the
conquest. (In most cases)
<Casey> But the number of 6 months' long
marriages indicates that some
people only want the unavailable, the excitement, and
not the commitment.
<Chipmonk> Notches on their guns.
<Sea Witch> don't you mean bedposts Chip?
<Chipmonk> Either way.
<Russ> I would never notch my gun, Chip
<kissfan> Some men want a mommy to take care of
them LOL
<Sea Witch> Mr. SW and I have been committed
for 17 years. Me in Lancaster
Moor and him in Risley
<Chipmonk> And some women want a daddy.
<Casey> LOL, SW!
<Chipmonk> Har har.
<kissfan> LOL SW
<Casey> Those are motivations.
<Sea Witch> Sharing common interests can be
important
<Russ> Sharing a common bed can be, too
<Casey> some women want men who are
"safe," i.e., in jail and can't reach
them.
<Chipmonk> Or a common problem or threat in the
story.
<Sea Witch> Or "Fixed"
<Sea Witch> Sheepskin rugs in front of log
fires are more interesting.
Have to watch out for cinders though
<Russ> I prefer to make my own "fire"
<Sea Witch> You don't live in the north of
England!
<Chipmonk> Yes, Casey, I've heard about those
women who find incarceration
attractive so they can exchange love letters.
<Sea Witch> Bloody weird way to conduct a
relationship if you ask me
<Casey> Locations can be used in stories to get
across subliminal messages.
<Sea Witch> Like putting up a tent at the foot
of Nelson's column?
<Casey> They do more than exchange love letters
in Virginia (or any state
with contact visits)!
<Chipmonk> Ah!
<Russ> Why do you think it is different for
visual media (i.e. tv, movies)
than print media. For the former, it is almost
required that you have sex
on screne, but in writing, such use seems tawdry and
boring.
<Chipmonk> Is that from personal experience
Witchie?
<Sea Witch> Dink, dink (raises eyebrows in
suggestive way) <g>
<Chipmonk> Interesting idea Russ.
<Casey> chuckling. Just like that,
Witchie.
<kissfan> I find sex in the movies quite boring
too
<Sea Witch> Especially if it has no relevance
to the plot
<kissfan> exactly
<Russ> Try moving to the front row,
Kathy. It's much more exciting with
more people watching you.
<Chipmonk> There's usually no dialogue during
sex scenes in movies.
<Casey> Men are stimulated visually to a
greater extent than women are (so
I've heard).
<Sea Witch> If a film/show needs at least one
bonk per reel then it ain't
worth watching
<kissfan> LOL Russ
<Chipmonk> LOL!
<Russ> That is true, Casey
<Casey> tsk, tsk, Russ!
<Chipmonk> How about sex on the radio?
<Russ> Too small, I keep falling off (credit to
Monty Python)
<kissfan> Not with me and my hubby, Russ two
seconds and it would be over
with anyway HEHEE
<Casey> I don't recall sex scenes on the
radio.
<Sea Witch> I don't think the BBC sound
department would be very good at
that. Their repertoire usually consists of
coconut shells and boots on
gravel
<Chipmonk> oh geez!
<Russ> Veeerrrrryyy sorry to hear that, Kathy
<kissfan> LOL
<kissfan> so am I believe me HEHEE
<Chipmonk> You guys are in rare form tonight.
<Casey> Then begin taking advantage of the time
afterwards, Kathy.
<Russ> Tell him he can't take off his underwear
until you orgasm at least
once
<kissfan> Hey I am fully rested tonight
<kissfan> Ya once he rolls over and falls
asleep HEHEE
<Casey> The perfect time to boot him in the
butt!
<Casey> And when he says,
"Whhaaatttt?!" tell him you want to be
held.
<Sea Witch> That's a girl!
<Sea Witch> You could always get him to tie a
knot in it
<Sea Witch> That's what male stippers do
<kissfan> He tells me to leave him alone so he
can sleep
<Chipmonk> Do you all ever do anti-romance?
<Russ> OUCH! <shudder>
<Casey> They do?! How?
<Sea Witch> Elastic band?
<Casey> (Nevermind. some things I don't
need to know.)
<kissfan> sounds too painful for me to even
think about
<Chipmonk> Ho kay!
<Casey> Anti-romance? As in fighting?
<Casey> I'm not sure I understand your
question, Chip.
<Chipmonk> No, hmm what do I mean by that?
<Sea Witch> As in contempt?
<kissfan> as in rape scenes?
<Sea Witch> You send her a dead cat instead of
a dozen roses?
<Chipmonk> No, as in people falling in love but
not in a traditional
romantic kind of way.
<kissfan> or the box without the candy?
<Sea Witch> LOL
<Sea Witch> As in friendship?
<kissfan> I have a long time ago
<Chipmonk> Maybe they argue their way into it.
<Casey> Like parent-child?
<Chipmonk> Or the setting is very unromantic.
<Sea Witch> They are wild-life photographers up
to their necks in hippo
shit?
<Chipmonk> That's the sort of thing, witchie.
<Casey> I've done an employer-employee romance
before.
<Chipmonk> Were they trying to remain
professional?
<Casey> Yes, Chip.
<Chipmonk> I had one where the girl tries to
attract the guy by throwing
rocks at him.
<Sea Witch> Here's a quick office
romance. Employee: I won't sit on your
lap, sir. Boss: You're fired
<kissfan> LOL SW
<Casey> There's the classic one of combining
romance, royalty and mystery.
<Casey> "Oh, shit," said the
queen. "I'm pregnant. I wonder whose
it is?"
<kissfan> I wrote a story where two hated each
other and then they ended up
together
<Sea Witch> You're right. How our royal
stay together is a complete bloody
mystery
<Chipmonk> I wondered where you were going with
that, Casey.
<Casey> Nowhere of importance, that's for sure.
<kissfan> LOL Casey
<Chipmonk> They have large houses, witchie.
<Sea Witch> Full of tabloid photographers
apparently
<Chipmonk> How did that happen, Kathy?
<Casey> So far, we've discussed only man-woman
love, but there are many
other kinds of love relationships.
<kissfan> they finally realized that they were
attracted to each other in
the end
<Sea Witch> Yeah, I love my dogs
<kissfan> I wrote that one in high school
<Chipmonk> Muskrat love?
<Sea Witch> Poor Wwombat! He'll be so
hurt
<Casey> How often do we show close friendships
in our writing?
<Chipmonk> Wwombat and anything edible love?
<Sea Witch> <g>
<Sea Witch> Lollipop love!
<Casey> She said that word!
<Chipmonk> Eeeep!
<kissfan> Oh no not the lollies again LOL
<Sea Witch> Is there something wrong with the
"L" word?
<Casey> Yes.
<kissfan> I don't think she saw that story line
guys HEHEE
<Sea Witch> Oops. Sorry
<Chipmonk> I like doing married couples who are
friends.
<kissfan> I like writing about friends that
fall in love
<Sea Witch> How about married couples that make
piggy noises at each other
down the 'phone every day?
<Casey> I read a lot about people running
around doing things, but rarely
is genuine affection shown in action stories.
<Casey> The few instances I've read really
stand out.
<kissfan> I knew a couple where the girl
sounded like a seal every night
HEHEE
<Sea Witch> Well, let's hope that when she
clapped her flippers together
she didn't trap anything important!
<Chipmonk> In scavengers Raymond and his wife
have a neat relationship.
<kissfan> HEHEE
<Casey> You're not referring to the short
story, Chip.
<kissfan> And I had to sit there and listen to
it too I lived with the
couple HEHEE
<Russ> Bak...what about homosexual love?
<Sea Witch> Time to reach for the Acme Earplugs
(TM)
<kissfan> LOL
<Chipmonk> No, in the novel. It runs
opposite to what's going on as
scavenger sex.
<Casey> I have to say, I've laughed a lot
tonight.
<kissfan> LOL so have I, Casey
<Sea Witch> One of my main characters is
homosexual.
<Casey> One of my characters is suspected to be
homosexual.
<Russ> How did you approach it, SW?
<Chipmonk> I've never done a homosexual
relationship. Male bonding though.
<kissfan> I read a complete trilogy dealing
with a homosexual relationship
<Sea Witch> With kid gloves. I don't
pander to the wanking masses
<Casey> Good for you, SW
<Chipmonk> Never pander.
<Russ> And what is wrong with
Wanking<g>? Speaking of which, anyone
ever
write about self-love?
<Chipmonk> Yes.
<Casey> An abnormal self-love, or the normal
kind?
<Russ> Either.
<Sea Witch> I lost my heart to a THRUM
vibrator?
<Casey> Yes to the latter.
<Chipmonk> As in tuning your own flute.
<kissfan> not me I couldn't even like myself
for a long time so I couldn't
relate to it to write about it
<Russ> LOL SW
<Chipmonk> It gets hinted at in Help Wanted.
<Casey> You mean masturbation, Chip. I
was thinking Narcissism.
<Chipmonk> Steve is real frustrated.
<Sea Witch> You're never alone with a box of
Kleenex
<kissfan> LOL
<Chipmonk> What did Russ's question mean?
<Casey> Russ?
<Russ> I was leaning more towards Chip's
meaning
<kissfan> nope I never have written about that
either
<Casey> Ahhh. Then yes to both
interpretations.
<Chipmonk> I did bestiality.
<Russ> Kewl!
<Sea Witch> Did I say I love my dogs? <g>
<Chipmonk> A guy and a giant alien spider.
<kissfan> HEHEE
<Casey> Yes, SW, you did.
<Sea Witch> Ewwwwww
<Casey> lol!
<Sea Witch> They get lots of hugs and kisses
but I don't have carnal
knowledge of them LOL
<Casey> Hey, 200,000 light years from home,
giant spiders can be very
attractive.
<Chipmonk> I have laughed too much!
<Russ> Since we all write fantasy, what about
between species?
<kissfan> give a whole new meaning to those
words doesn't it< SW?
<Sea Witch> Not if they look like that bastards
I find in my bath!
<Chipmonk> Yes, I've done human alien sex
several times.
<Sea Witch> I have that too!
<Sea Witch> Quite a bit of it in fact
<Sea Witch> Chipmonk has wet herself!
<kissfan> I think I married an alien LOL
<Chipmonk> I did not!
<Sea Witch> Heh, heh, heh
<Casey> It breaks the tedium of nonstop
violence, I suppose.
<Russ> Try harder, Chip. I know you have
it in you
<Chipmonk> Lol!
<Sea Witch> LOL
<Casey> Sex is loving violence.
<Sea Witch> Then you're doing it wrong Casey
<g>
<Russ> And I Looooovvve violence <g>
<Casey> SW loves violence!
<Sea Witch> I do?
<Sea Witch> <g>
<Casey> If the chapters I've read are any
indication--yes.
<kissfan> I was thinking of tying up my hubby
and making him do it the way
I want to for a change HEHEE
<Chipmonk> I did a story where these
genetically engineered froglike
creatures really admire humans until a bunch of drunk
humans rape one of
them.
<Sea Witch> rape a frog? I think I prefer
Russ's spiders
<Russ> That is interesting
<Chipmonk> Hurts so good, come on baby make it
hurt so good
<Casey> That sounds typically human.
<Chipmonk> Sometimes love don't feel like it
should.
<Sea Witch> Yeah, they miss the groove
altogether
<Chipmonk> Mellencamp.
<Russ> WHy not, we rape everything on our own
world.
<Sea Witch> And you!
<Casey> Earth now! We'll strip mine the
other planets later.
<Sea Witch> You're right Russ. The
environment has been pretty well F*****
<Russ> And we didn't even bother to kiss it
first
<Chipmonk> Yeah that's what they're doing on
this planet. It's all swamp
and they create these froglike creatures as workers.
<Sea Witch> I bet the tadpoles look cute though
<Casey> Great set-up for a frog revolt.
<Russ> Tadpoles of the world, Unite!
<Chipmonk> I've been thinking about rewriting
that one.
<Sea Witch> Witchie is knocking off now.
It's after 5am here so I'm going
to bye-byes
<Russ> Take Care SW
<Sea Witch> It's been a great night.
<kissfan> Ok SW sweet dreams
<Chipmonk> Good night witchie, pleasant dreams.
<Casey> Great that you could join us.
<Chipmonk> (She's gonna go wake up Mr. SW now)
<kissfan> HEHEE Chip
<shorty103> thank you for letting me join in so
late
<Casey> We also don't have to have romance
scenes taking place.
<Casey> Characters' daydreams can reveal a lot
about them.
<Casey> Their fantasies.
<Russ> Hey, chip, I'm still waiting for a
submission from you (hint, hint)
<Chipmonk> I know.
<Russ> <g>
<Chipmonk> Which kind would you all prefer?
<Russ> Whatever you want us to look at
<Casey> By that question, are you asking
whether we prefer short stories or
chapters or samples?
<Chipmonk> You want sex, violence, humor, what?
<Casey> Anything, Chip.
<Chipmonk> How about some humorous violent sex?
<Russ> Sounds great, Chip.
<kissfan> now that could be interesting, Chip
<Casey> That's an intriguing combination.
<Casey> If anyone can pull it off, you can.
<Chipmonk> I shall oblige.
<Russ> looking forward to it.
<Casey> Oh, one really cool fact I discovered
in researching this topic.
<Chipmonk> What?
<Russ> Do tell
<Casey> In a test of men and women and how they
react/discern scents,
<Casey> Mothers can pick out the t-shirts worn
by their grade school
children, while men could not.
<Casey> However, men could tell by scent
whether a man or a woman had worn
a specific t-shirt.
<Russ> Hmm
<Chipmonk> Interesting.
<Casey> I had heard that women are more attuned
to scents than men.
<kissfan> That I can believe
<Chipmonk> I wonder if men can recognize women
by their scent?
<Casey> it was interesting that men don't
recognize the scents of their own
children.
<Russ> I know Heather is more sensitive to
scents than I am
<Casey> This study shows that they can, chip.
<Chipmonk> Or what the differences are in scent
preferences?
<Russ> During sex, women do smell different
from each other.
<kissfan> I can tell when a man is wearing Polo
from a mile away LOL
<shorty103> I have a hard time smelling
anything, allergies
<Chipmonk> I recognize the scent of chocolate
chip cookies a mile away.
<Chipmonk> What's everyone's favorite smells?
<Casey> I've smelt smoke long before Harold
catches a whiff of it before.
<Casey> lemon!
<kissfan> HEHEE but chocolate chip cookies
doesn't do the same thing as the
scent of Polo does on me
<shorty103> Charlie
<Chipmonk> Besides cologne.
<Russ> The smell of beer and cigarettes on a
sensual woman's breath
<kissfan> EWWWWWWWWWWW
<Chipmonk> Ewwwww! I hate beer breath!
<kissfan> good food of any kind
<kissfan> that is why I am overweight LOL
<Casey> you've gotten her drunk and high, and
now you can take advantage of
her?
<Chipmonk> I like barns and spring dirt.
<shorty103> chocolate chip cookies, or sweets
that are home made
<Chipmonk> Baking bread.
<shorty103> that too Chip
<Casey> Hmmm. I tend to like plant
smells. Peppermint is a close second
to lemon.
<Chipmonk> Horses and puppies.
<Russ> Let me rephrase that. It's not my
favorite scent, but one that
conjurs up the most memories
<Casey> I figured as much!
<Casey> Crip, what's your favorite scent?
<Casey> So, what's your favorite scent then,
Russ, now that seduction's
eliminated?
<Russ> Roses.
<Russ> Fresh cut grass
<Casey> You're a dyed in the wool romantic!
<Russ> The air after a rainstorm
<Chipmonk> Roses are good.
<Chipmonk> Woodsy smells.
<shorty103> I like that smell too, when I can
smell them, well it's like
anything, even freshly cut grass
<Casey> The air after a rainstorm is good,
too. That's one of my
favorites.
<kissfan> The smell of the ocean
<Chipmonk> Wood smoke.
<Casey> I like the wind and the lightening
before a rainstorm, too.
<Russ> Good pipe tobacco
<Russ> leather
<Casey> Freshly cut wood.
<kissfan> Yes I love the smell of good leather
<kissfan> carnations
<Casey> Four O'clocks!
<Chipmonk> Saddles.
<Russ> Downy fabric softener
<Chipmonk> Leather and horse combined.
<kissfan> the smell of burning candles
<Chipmonk> Russ gets his wife to rub herself
with a dryer sheet.
<kissfan> LOL
<Russ> Only on alternate Saturdays
<Russ> Too much of a good thing, ya know
<Chipmonk> Lol!
<kissfan> HEHEE
<shorty103> yes, me too! for me, the stronger
the smell of these things the
better, my allergies play a big part on how well I
smell things
<Casey> So THAT's why you're always drying the
clothes!
<Casey> Or offering to.
<Chipmonk> I like warm clothes just out of the
dryer smell even without
softener.
<Russ> A mans gotta do what a mans gotta do
<kissfan> I knew there was a reason he was
always doing the laundry
<Chipmonk> What smells really awful?
<Russ> Baby poop
<kissfan> dog poop LOL
<Casey> He's an out of the closet Downey Fabric
Softener sheet sniffer!
<Chipmonk> Good one!
<kissfan> LOL
<Casey> Sick baby poop!
<kissfan> vomit
<Chipmonk> Baby poop is worse than dog poop.
<Russ> Day old vomit on your shirt
<shorty103> sour anything, like milk
<Chipmonk> You know from experience?
<Russ> rotting meat
<kissfan> rotten food
<Chipmonk> Rotten chicken.
<Chipmonk> It's kind of sweet and sickening.
<Casey> Dead, bloated animals.
<Russ> Sour sweaty clothes in a rainstorm
<Russ> wet dog
<crip> sauerkraut that's been left in the trash
for a week
<Chipmonk> Alcohol puke.
<kissfan> dead animals lying in the hot
sun
<kissfan> skunk
<Chipmonk> formaldehyde.
<Casey> Canned food contaminated with botulism.
<shorty103> there goes my stomach
<Chipmonk> Never smelled that.
<Russ> Skunk
<Casey> It is absolutely the worst thing I've
ever smelled.
<Chipmonk> Strep throat.
<kissfan> the breath of a person with rotten
teeth
<shorty103> yes, that's why I'm toothless
<Chipmonk> My dog passing gas.
<kissfan> me passing gas after eating beans and
onions
<Chipmonk> Rotten onions.
<Casey> The bathroom, after Harold's come out.
<Chipmonk> Lol!
<kissfan> the bathroom after I come out
<Russ> Hehe
<kissfan> I have been told I am deadly HEHEE
<shorty103> same here after Jim
<crip> yeah those moldy dentures of yours must
leave quite a smell, casey
<Chipmonk> I read somewhere you can't smell
yourself.
<Casey> What happens to food after it enters a
man's mouth?
<Casey> Thank you, Crip.
<Russ> Usually it enters his stomache
<Casey> Yeah, but somewhere between entering
the stomach and exiting the
body, something goes wrong.
<Chipmonk> I haven't laughed so hard in a long
time!
<kissfan> ya really wrong HEHEE
<Casey> It NEVER smelt like that entering!
<kissfan> same here Chip
<kissfan> If it did would we have eaten it with
them?
<Casey> Absolutely not. Our nose would
have warned us that it was dead.
<kissfan> for sure
<crip> i can't believe this is all being blamed
on men! women do it all
the time and still the men get blamed!
<Chipmonk> I think women are more discreet
about it.
<Russ> Depends on the woman and the man, Chip
<Chipmonk> Did you ever hear a woman say Pull
my finger?
<Russ> Um, yes.
<crip> all the time
<kissfan> or blame it on an elephant under her
chair?
<Russ> Elephant, no. Now a hippo...
<Russ> Thanks for all the fun, gang, but I'm
gonna have to call it a night.
<Casey> "Night!"
<Russ> Ha
<Casey> Understand. Goodnight,
Russ. Thanks for being brave and sticking
with us.
<Russ> Anytime I can. Take Care, All
<Casey> Has anyone written a love scene that
tore the two participants
apart rather than bring them closer together?
<crip> how can it be a love scene if they're
being torn apart?
<kissfan> no I haven't
<Casey> If the woman panics halfway through and
the man doesn't stop.
<crip> um...ok
<Casey> Or he immediately gets up, dresses, and
leaves.
<Casey> (or she does)
<Casey> (I'm all for equal opportunity jerks.)
<kissfan> HEHEE
<kissfan> ya these days it could happen either
way
<Casey> In sex scenes, the participants are not
only physically naked, but
emotionally naked and vulnerable as well.
<shorty103> that's interesting thought Casey, I
wish I could write a scene
like that!
<Casey> You could always try to, Rose.
That's what writing experiments are
all about.
<Chipmonk> I've written people forced into a
sexual situation they didn't
want that made their relationship difficult.
<kissfan> I bet you could if you really
tried
<kissfan> and to think I almost wrote romance
novels HEHEE
<Casey> There is a wide gamut of romance to
lust, tenderness to
perversions.
<kissfan> this is so true
<Chipmonk> I tried once just to see if I could
and couldn't. But I can't
read them either.
<Casey> That's why I was looking at
relationships other than simply the
man-woman relationship.
<Chipmonk> Romantic scenes don't have to be
cliche.
<Casey> And it's interesting, because given a
choice between saving your
spouse or your child, which are you more likely to
chose?
<kissfan> I have to be in the right frame of
mind to read one. and that
doesn't happen too often
<kissfan> my child for sure
<Chipmonk> I think the spouse would be more
capable of saving himself.
<Casey> I'd go for child, too. And pray
like crazy that Harold was able to
save himself somehow.
<Casey> Agree, Chip.
<Chipmonk> I'd probably rescue the dog.
<kissfan> LOL I would save my cat
<shorty103> I'd save what I could, myself,
cats, and Jim
<crip> to heck with everybody, what if i get a
paper cut???
<kissfan> LOL
<Chipmonk> Whine .
<Casey> Given a fire and you could save only
one physical possession (no
human or animal lives are endangered) what would you
save?
<shorty103> computer
<kissfan> My manuscripts and the pc
<crip> my lucky brain
<Casey> I'd go for my manuscripts. (The
pc's outdated and insurance money
would get me a better one)
<kissfan> OOPS that is 2 things hard choice
<crip> my social security card, do you know
what a pain it is to get one of
those?
<kissfan> but nothing here is insured LOL
<kissfan> yep I know I have had everything
stolen before
<Chipmonk> I was thinking my drivers license or
some other ID.
<Casey> Odd. I didn't have any problem
replacing my SS card. Is that
because I look so honest?
<Chipmonk> My purse then I guess.
<kissfan> I knew someone that lost everything
in a fire and when he was
allowed to go back in he found that the only thing
that survived the fire
was his manuscripts
<Chipmonk> Wow.
<Casey> Wow!
<crip> honest..........yeah that must be it
<crip> cool!
<kissfan> and they were in a cardboard box next
to the wall where the fire
started
<Casey> (I know, Crip:
"innocent" and "sweet" were your
other word
choices, right?)
<Chipmonk> Sounds like someone was watching
over them.
<kissfan> Ya I was so worried that he would
have to start over again
<crip> oh sure
<kissfan> ya I think so/
<Chipmonk> People trust old ladies? (duck)
<kissfan> LOL
<Casey> Of course! How can they not?
<crip> just throw your voice, their eyesight
stinks
<Casey> We're like children (wrinkled
children): cute and adorable.
<Casey> LOL, Crip!
<crip> yeah just like 2 year olds BLAM! BLAM!
<Chipmonk> They forget about Norman Bate's
mother.
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