CHAT ARCHIVE - 11-27-99, Narration (or How to Fart)

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Started on Sun Nov 28 04:33:29 1999

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<Sea Witch> ICQ = it's crap quality
<Casey> Tonight, I will be presenting parenthetical expressions as the grammar lesson.
<Casey> What they are, and how they're punctuated.
<Chipmonk> Like, "Go clean your room!" and "No you can't have the car!"?
<Casey> Those are exclamatory expressions, Chip.
<Chipmonk> From Parents.
<Casey> he he he! I got it--finally.
<Casey> A parenthetical expression is an expression inserted into a sentence that interrupts its thought or flow.
<Sea Witch> :o)
<Casey> They can be short, single words like "however" or long phrases
<Sea Witch> something like, she washed her hair, damn that soap, and toweled it dry.
<Casey> "damn that soap" is the parenthetical expression in Witchie's sentence.
<Casey> (Thank you, Witchie.)
<Sea Witch> <g> (very modestly)
<Casey> As you can see by Witchie's example, commas set off the parenthetical expression.
<shorty103> I have never heard of that word before, parenthetical, that is a real twister of a word to say
<Sea Witch> especially if your false teeth don't fit too good
<kissfan> LOL or have been drinking HEHEE
<Goshwin> Hic
<shorty103> I don't have any top teeth, so it's just as bad! HEHEHE
<Casey> What it is, Rose, is a bit of info or an expression that can be removed from a sentence without affecting the idea being presented.
<shorty103> okay
<Goshwin> what, I'm hanging out with the geriatric crowd (Note, I have all my teath)
<Sea Witch> So do I gosh. gnash gnash
<Casey> If you read Witchie's sentence and remove damn that soap, you still know what's going on.
<shorty103> yes, I understand now
<Casey> You probably are the baby in this group, Gosh.
<Chipmonk> Gosh, drunk as a skunk, has joined the group.
<Goshwin> (only 20% plastic)
<Goshwin> I love sherry.. HIC
<Sea Witch> I take it you are speaking for yourself?
<kissfan> lol my teeth are my own gosh just most of them are missing
<Casey> Parenthetical expressions are set off by a single comma only when they begin or end a sentence.
<Casey> Of course, I'll go.
<Casey> I'll go, of course.
<Chipmonk> Gotcha.
<Casey> However, commas are not the only punctuation associated with p.e.'s.
<shorty103> I get it!
<Casey> (I got tired of typing the words out)
<shorty103> don't blame you, that is a long word
<Casey> dashes and parentheses are used depending upon the emphasis being placed on the expression used.
<Chipmonk> When which? I have a problem with that.
<Casey> Dashes are used for emphasizing the statements.
<Casey> I shall arrive--surprise, surprise--on Monday.
<Casey> Parentheses are used to express less emphatic statements (or asides).
<Sea Witch> Not before I tidy my house up you don't
<Casey> he he!
<shorty103> surprise, surprise--not until Tuesday please!
<Sea Witch> Good one Rose
<Goshwin> I decided, despite being drunk, to join the writers group tonight.
<shorty103> so that was right! surprise, surprise--on me!
<Chipmonk> First she said she would, then she said she would come. Are you coming or going?
<Sea Witch> Must be good sherry!
<Casey> We might make more sense in your current condition than we normally do, Gosh.
<Goshwin> However, HIC, I seem to be semifunctional. (note P.E)
<Chipmonk> He learned!
<Casey> We'll prod you if you fall asleep.
<Sea Witch> does semifunctional also mean semiparalitic?
<Casey> Does semiparalitic mean semifunctional?
<Sea Witch> I just said that ,G>
<Goshwin> Hic
<Sea Witch> lol
<Casey> Yeah, but I don't know what semiparalitic means.
<Goshwin> Semiphore?
<Sea Witch> half sloshed
<Casey> It's not one of those words I frequently use in writing. (but should, by Witchie's definition!)
<Chipmonk> He is, I think, all sloshed Gosh,
<shorty103> I think that about covers it with Gosh!
<Sea Witch> pissed, steaming, rolling, drunk...you know, paralytic
<Goshwin> Semichoerent
<Sea Witch> Spot on, Gosh
<kissfan> soused
<Goshwin> a better description is buzzed, bzz bzz, like a bee
<Casey> If no questions about parenthetical expressions, we will stumble ahead toward the main topic.
<Goshwin> (any excuse for a PE
<shorty103> okay, go for it Casey!
<Goshwin> Stumble? how topical Caser
<Casey> (Remember to close your parentheses, Gosh.)
<Chipmonk> So there is no hard and fast rule about ,-- or ()?
<Sea Witch> You don't have to excuse yourself for a pee Gosh
<Goshwin> Hic, OK
<Chipmonk> Lol
<shorty103> LOL SW
<kissfan> LOL
<Casey> Well, --'s give longer pauses than commas, thus giving emphasis to the words that follow.
<Chipmonk> And close your zipper after too.
<Sea Witch> mind your fingers though
<Chipmonk> Along with your parentheses.
<Goshwin> Opp he he, Zip.
<shorty103> but make sure it's in first, OUCH! that would hurt!
<kissfan> OUCH
<Chipmonk> Rose!
<Sea Witch> instant circumnavigation!
<shorty103> LOL
<Goshwin> Been there.. (note high pitch voice)
<shorty103> HEHE
<Chipmonk> Tsk, tsk!
<Casey> Chuckling and shaking head.
<shorty103> could resist!
<Chipmonk> Some grammar lesson!
<kissfan> LOL ya really
<Goshwin> Why does this thing degenerate every time I show up!?
<Sea Witch> I brought Mr. SW a book on the history of farting this morning. I've been too busy laughing to give it him
<Casey> Who says grammar has to be dull?
<kissfan> true LOL
<shorty103> LOLSW
<Casey> It degenerates even when you don't show up, Gosh.
<Goshwin> Fart book? (Pull my finger)
<Chipmonk> Farting has changed over time or were there great historical events involving farting, as in the Fart that Changed the World!
<Sea Witch> For truth
<kissfan> LOL Gosh
<Casey> Yeah, you've got to enlighten us now, SW. I mean, are there famous farters whose names are passed over in the official history books for some reason?
<shorty103> well, there's the silent ones, soft ones, and one's that bring down the roof!
<Goshwin> "The Fart heard around the world"
<Sea Witch> The book contains a stern rebuke for those that blame the dog
<Chipmonk> Ewwww! Dog farts!
<Chipmonk> Silent but deadly!
<Goshwin> Trust me, sometimes the dog did do it!! (Alpo farts are the worst)
<Chipmonk> A scientific treatise on which dog food makes the smelliest gas?
<Goshwin> there should be a warning label on "Kibble and bits" may be hazordous to your health
<Sea Witch> it mentions a certain Duchess who farted rather loudly during a formal dinner. Quick as a flash she caught the butler's eye and said, "Stop it, Perkins. Stop it right now!" To which the butler replied in a dignified tone, "Certainly Ma'am. Which way did it go?"
<Chipmonk> Don't give dogs nachos!
<kissfan> LOL
<Casey> LOL, SW!
<shorty103> LOL SW
<Chipmonk> Guffaw!!
<Casey> Cheese activates many canine gastronomical defenses.
<Goshwin> Hic
<Sea Witch> With emphasis on the "guff"
<Goshwin> Fish farts (OOorg)
<shorty103> LOL
<kissfan> LOL
<Goshwin> Grin
<Casey> Ahem. Didn't this chat have a semi-serious purpose, originally?
<Goshwin> Serious? Waaa hahahahahahahaha (yah right!)
<Chipmonk> Have you heard the comedy routine about finicky cats who smell there food and back off?
<Sea Witch> heh heh heh
<Casey> No, chip.
<Goshwin> May I add.. HIC
<shorty103> blame it on SW, she started this topic!
<Casey> What's the punch line?
<Sea Witch> Who, me? (Note PE)
<Chipmonk> Guy says, but they turn around and lick their butts. They should make cat butt flavored cat food.
<Sea Witch> But all cat food smells like cat butt
<shorty103> ewwwww
<Casey> Ewwwww!
<Goshwin> Ah ha.. I detect a theme here!
<Goshwin> Tonights topic, all butts!!
<Casey> I just hope everyone ate before chat. (The regulars have learned by now to do that.)
<Chipmonk> Yeah, you're right. Since that's what comes out of cat butts. Processed cat food. Hmmmm.
<Sea Witch> Naw, Gosh. The topic was almost!
<Casey> butt's are conjunctions, Gosh. (See, I can turn the topic back to grammar!)
<Chipmonk> Are we supposed to be discussing narrative?
<Casey> Yes, Chip.
<Casey> Thank you.
<shorty103> yes, as well as something else, but I can't remember what it is
<Chipmonk> That's when you use a depilatory.
<Chipmonk> Nair-ative.
<Goshwin> I cant remember what day it is! (let alone the topic)
<Casey> I looked for a literary definition of narrative/narration but didn't find one.
<shorty103> Gosh, you remembered something, you're here!
<Chipmonk> It's when nobody's talking?
<Sea Witch> the narrator is
<Chipmonk> Except the narrator.
<Casey> And when you're not describing trees and furniture.
<Goshwin> <from loaded brother-in-law> just remember: if you have sex with a borg, you're having sex with every other borg simultaneously
<Goshwin> I have been shanghied
<Chipmonk> Ewwwww!
<Sea Witch> simultaneous borgasms
<kissfan> LOL SW
<Chipmonk> Hey! Now there's a way to get rid of borgs.
<Goshwin> OOo that went well
<Casey> oh, how awful, SW! (It was great!)
<Chipmonk> Give a std to one borg and...
<Goshwin> That's what a "Virus" is
<Goshwin> so safe sex with a borg required a copy of Norton's virus checker?
<Sea Witch> you mean, give herpes to one borg and they all have it? Ewwww
<Casey> The dictionary definition of narration is "an account or story; narrative." Narrative means (when it's not using the word narrative to define narrative) is a story of events, experiences, or the like.
<Chipmonk> They need to collect every comic in the universe and add them to the borg collective.
<Casey> The art, technique, or process of narrating. . . . told for any purpose; and with or without much detail."
<Chipmonk> The what's happening part?
<Goshwin> <from loaded brother-in-law> How many borg does it take to change a light bulb?\
<Casey> One changes a light bulb, they all do?
<Sea Witch> The "let's tell the story between gory battles" parts
<Chipmonk> All of them?
<Goshwin> <from loaded brother-in-law> A: None they just assimilate it!!
<Goshwin> I am invaded by Treky geeks!
<Chipmonk> Does assimilate mean they stick it?
<Sea Witch> Where? I'll get my hammer and put them out of their misery!
<Goshwin> where the sun don't shine?
<Casey> I was wondering the same thing, Chip. Isn't that sex to them, also?
<Chipmonk> Yep.
<Goshwin> perchance it is a silver hammer?
<Sea Witch> why? are you telling me that trekkies are also creatures of the night?
<Chipmonk> The borg assimilated Gosh (narrative.)
<Goshwin> AARGH... I am one with the collective!!
<Goshwin> (they have assimilated my stereo! (aargh)
<Casey> ANYWAY, (thank you, Chip), the dictionary definition sounds suspiciously like an anecdote, to me.
<Goshwin> Poor Casey, trying to get back to her "assimilated" topic.
<Sea Witch> Off his head humour, that sherry must be really strong
<Chipmonk> Don't anecdotes include description and a plot sort of?
<Casey> Which isn't what I think of when I think of narrative.
<Casey> Anecdotes are short stories used to illustrate a point.
<Chipmonk> An anecdote would include narrative.
<Casey> Yes, it would Chip.
<Chipmonk> But also more.
<Casey> An anecdote can include all the elements of a short story, which is, after all, what an anecdote is.
<Casey> (A short, short story.)
<Chipmonk> Yep, a real short one.
<Casey> Since the three elements of writing are dialogue, narrative, and description, I have to assume that narrative is anything that isn't dialogue or description.
<Chipmonk> So the getting from here to there part.
<Casey> As SW said earlier, all the words in between the killing parts.
<shorty103> okay, now I understand
<Chipmonk> Romeo killed his cousin, went to a party met a girl, fell in love, got married and died.
<Sea Witch> Was that before or after the honeymoon?
<Casey> That sounds like a synopsis, chip.
<Chipmonk> Well, it was a synopsis of a narrative of a play.
<Sea Witch> And succinctly put as well.
<Casey> We keep hearing the admonition, show, don't tell, but if you only show, that makes for a very long story.
<Goshwin> Perhaps I should shoo these persons away!?! (shoo scat!) where is my spray!?
<Chipmonk> Borg repellant?
<Casey> Showing requires many more words than telling (narration).
<Chipmonk> Wouldn't it be mixed together?
<Casey> Ideally, yes, Chip.
<Chipmonk> John walked down the street. (It was damp and dark). He saw something gleam in the lamp light. A penny. He picked it up. (It felt cold in his hand.)
<Casey> If John was an alien, the first parenthetical expression becomes interesting.)
<Chipmonk> I put the description in the parentheses and the narrative not.
<Goshwin> <LBIL> o, what do you think of Uranus as a whole?
<Goshwin> Sigh
<Sea Witch> I think you should sit on it Gosh
<Casey> I don't know, Gosh's BIL. I can't see my anus.
<Goshwin> Leave it to the Brit to come back so fast
<Chipmonk> How many waste baskets do we have, Casey?
<Casey> Not enough, Chip.
<Sea Witch> Not enough, chip, not enough
<Chipmonk> Sigh
<Goshwin> Perhaps I should send them away?!? (shoo scat)
<Casey> (I can no longer remember what I said and if there's a point to this discussion.)
<Goshwin> <LBIL> Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor not a drag queen!!
<Sea Witch> Gosh! You'll frighten the cat
<shorty103> cat got down from my arms, he wanted to see what his sisters where up to
<Goshwin> Let's say there is more to this Brother in law that I have not explained!!
<Chipmonk> This would be a bad night for new members.
<Casey> Yes, it would be. I'm glad Jean didn't make it.
<kissfan> true
<Sea Witch> Witchie is very crestfallen
<Sea Witch> I'll go sit in the bin right away
<Chipmonk> Dustbin specially for SW.
<Sea Witch> Boo hoo!
<Chipmonk> The rest of you get wastebins.
<Goshwin> What give with the witch?
<Casey> Gosh would just bang his bottle on the side of the trash can as he continued to drink.
<shorty103> mine's to small, or I'm to large!
<Chipmonk> If Casey is bad she gets a trash can.
<Goshwin> here here (bang bang)
<Casey> Yes, ma'am, oh rodent monitor.
<Sea Witch> What would Zen get? A dumper?
<Casey> Dumpster?
<Chipmonk> Hmmmm.
<Goshwin> A whole heap
<shorty103> LOL
<Sea Witch> We call them dumpers
<Goshwin> Heck he would get love cannal
<Chipmonk> Dipsty Dumpsters.
<Goshwin> adds a whole new meaning to "wasted"
<Sea Witch> I want parity with the rodent! I demand a waste paper bin!
<Chipmonk> He'd use a shao lin move and we'd end up in the dumpster.
<Sea Witch> Not if you tie his shoe laces together first
<Goshwin> And Chip would kneel in front, and Casey would push him over
<Casey> Okay, tonight I will give the extremely abbreviated version of my whole topic: When writing narrative, tell not only what happens, but how it's significant to the protagonist or linked to the plot or subplot. Combine narrative with description and/or action, and where possible, break it up with dialogue. (Don't have large chucks of narrative, if possible.) End of wisdom.
<Chipmonk> Wow!
<Casey> Now, we were discussing tripping Zen . . .
<Casey> he he he!
<Chipmonk> Not me.
<Sea Witch> That has to be the most concise and informative lesson you've ever given Casey. My admiration has no bounds
<Casey> I figured there was no other way to get it in tonight.
<Goshwin> What? tripping Zen? Oo this is a writers group... Silly me I digress
<shorty103> I always knew you had a lot of wisdom Casey, now you just proved it in under ten sentences!
<kissfan> LOL Ya Casey
<Sea Witch> Hey, shouldn't that be Zen's line?
<Chipmonk> We can't blame it on too much turkey either, Casey. They're furriners.
<Casey> Blush. Thank you, Rose.
<Casey> Gosh's excuse is too much Sherry. I'd hate to see what happened to the other girls.
<shorty103> I knew you were full, but I didn't say how much!
<Goshwin> HIC... <-- the limit of my wisdom
<Sea Witch> I don't drink. I'm a natural maniac
<Chipmonk> Does his wife know about Sherry?
<Goshwin> She gave it to me
<kissfan> At least I was trying to be good LOL
<shorty103> I hate to see if we had this chat on new years eve, I don't think anyone would be in their right mind except a few, like me and SW
<Casey> That's one way to get you to sleep tonight.
<Sea Witch> There are some that would say I've never been in my right mind. I was born with someone else's. <g>
<Casey> That reminds me: no meeting on Christmas day.
<Chipmonk> Pretty soon it will be time for him to be drinking egg nog then new year champagne. I guess we can expect this for the next six weeks or so.
<kissfan> brb must get a drink
<Goshwin> Glad to see Kiss is getting in the spirit! (Or spirits)
<kissfan> LOL I just want to be drunk when hubby comes home
<Chipmonk> And Casey reminds me, we are starting up Friday night chats again.
<Sea Witch> He ain't absent minded, his notebook caught a virus
<Casey> Yes, that's good news Chip has.
<Sea Witch> Sure is. When's the first one?
<Casey> The new chats will be on the Fridays in between the weeks New Writers meets.
<Chipmonk> I get to be the leader and I've got lots of wastebins, nyaaaa!
<kissfan> cool
<shorty103> does that include me Casey?
<Goshwin> Humm I was just thinking of santa, and Mrs claws,, I wonder, does Santa have a kid? perhaps a disaffected teenager. hangs out with all the bad elves? Sort of a punk cris cringle?
<Chipmonk> Every other week opposite Casey's New Writers.
<Casey> It's an open chat, so you're more than welcome to join us, Rose.
<Sea Witch> Or is he the Christmas fairy in drag?
<shorty103> okay, that's if I remember
<kissfan> sounds like a good idea
<shorty103> need to get a tea, brb
<Sea Witch> So, next Friday then? Is it officially RW?
<Chipmonk> I has a topic thought up for it too!
<Sea Witch> Pray, tell!
<Goshwin> There is a RW??
<Casey> No, RW's is RW. This is something else.
<Chipmonk> Well, I was watching biography and they were doing the most influential people of the millennium.
<kissfan> yep I saw that
<Sea Witch> Guess that let's off OLIVER north then
<Chipmonk> So, who would you say are the most influential, writers artists musicians of the millenium?
<kissfan> that sounds cool
<Sea Witch> ZZ Top
<Sea Witch> Heh heh heh
<kissfan> LOL KISS
<Chipmonk> I guessed the most influential person on Biography, can you guys?
<Chipmonk> Not ZZ Top.
<Sea Witch> Awwwww
<Casey> *Hand on heart* (Let us all stand.) Zentao, for beginning Z7. (he he he)
<kissfan> HEHEHE
<Chipmonk> No that wasn't it.
<Casey> I was typing that before you asked your question, Chip.
<Chipmonk> Awww, come on. I thought writers would guess easy.
<Casey> Tolkien is my guess.
<Sea Witch> Can't be MOTHER Teresa ELSE WE'LL ALL HAVE MOVED TO India
<Chipmonk> In a thousand years who has had the most influence?!
<Goshwin> Mcdonalds?
<Casey> Oh, yeah. 1,000 years. I was thinking 100.
<Sea Witch> The BLOKE WITH THE HORNS AND OVER-SIZED TOASTING FORK?
<Casey> Shakespeare.
<Sea Witch> The Teletubies?
<Chipmonk> Shakespeare was in the top five.
<Casey> Aristotle?
<Goshwin> If its Steven King, I'm jumping off a bridge!!
<Chipmonk> You guys couldn't make any money writing without this guy.
<Sea Witch> BIRO!
<Casey> Harcourt Brace and World!
<Chipmonk> Aristotle wasn't alive in the 1ast millennium.
<Goshwin> creator of oxford dictionary?
<Chipmonk> Though he did influence it.
<Sea Witch> Oh, no...you don't mean the Microsoft Bastard do you?
<Chipmonk> No, not Billy boy,
<Casey> Whew!
<Sea Witch> Close call
<Goshwin> Bill? oh got, the demon spawn!
<Chipmonk> Harcourt Brace Jovonovich wouldn't exist without this guy.
<Sea Witch> er....caxton?
<Chipmonk> Who's Caxton?
<Sea Witch> The first printing press baron
<Sea Witch> Not the bloke who invented the dictionary?
<Chipmonk> You're getting warmer.
<Chipmonk> German guy.
<Sea Witch> Dr...something or other
<Chipmonk> No Doctor.
<Casey> The B name?
<Chipmonk> Never went to college.
<Sea Witch> Ah...I'm with you. He did that bible thing
<Chipmonk> Warmer!!!
<Casey> (Can't think of it, but the publishing conglomerate is named after him.)
<Chipmonk> 1400s, I think.
<Casey> Brother Caladryl!
<Sea Witch> I know who it is but I can't remember his name
<Chipmonk> No! He was before that.
<Sea Witch> LOL Casey
<Chipmonk> Printing. Bibles.
<Casey> I can't remember his name either. Are you going to tell us or let us stay up all night wondering?
<Goshwin> Gutenburg?
<Chipmonk> Gosh wins!
<Goshwin> WAAHOO
<Casey> Yay, Gosh!
<Goshwin> do I get a prize?
<Sea Witch> Well done Gosh!
<shorty103> way to go Gosh!
<Chipmonk> You can have another sherry.
<kissfan> I couldn't think of his name LOL
<Casey> Just remember that farts in a trash bin reverberate.
<Sea Witch> So, they picked someone who made a REAL contribution. That's heartening
<kissfan> LOL Casey
<Chipmonk> Ewwww!
<Goshwin> I cheated (nutting like having a search engine open in another window)
<kissfan> Mine shake the windows here anyway
<Chipmonk> Bad Gosh!!!
<Sea Witch> Bad, naughty Gosh! Go stand in the corner!
<Goshwin> Pout
<kissfan> SHHHHHHHHH gosh you wasn't supposed to tell
<Chipmonk> Dump him in the wastebin!!!
<Sea Witch> Head first
<Casey> Clang!
<Goshwin> More fun to admit it.. and make a show of guilt@@
<shorty103> LOL
<kissfan> LOL
<Chipmonk> So did you open it to Biography.com?
<Goshwin> nope, yahoo. looked up printing press, then history and found the first significant name I recognized
<Goshwin> In the Mid-15th Century, things begin to change with the advent of the printing press. In 1452, Gutenberg conceives of the idea for
<Goshwin> movable type. In his workshop, he brings together the technologies of paper, oil-based ink and the wine-press to print books. The
<Goshwin> printing press is not a single invention. It is the aggregation in one place, of technologies known for centuries before Gutenberg.
<Casey> We should have known when Gosh spelled the name correctly.
<Goshwin> Hurumph
<kissfan> lol
<Sea Witch> Heh heh heh
<Goshwin> One thing to remember is that Gutenberg gets credit for an invention that is thought to have been developed simultaneously in
<Goshwin> Holland and in Prague.
<Goshwin> hey is the whole thing coming through?
<Goshwin> I am cutting and pasting the history of the printing press
<shorty103> yes, I see it
<Goshwin> lets see the link in Guttenburg
<Sea Witch> Witchie is cabbaged. I've had a busy day today so I'M OFF TO BYE-BYES, Say nite to Chip for me please?
<Goshwin> Oh alright
<shorty103> nite SW
<Chipmonk> Nite Witchie.
<Goshwin> we will permit you to leave
<kissfan> nitr SW
<Chipmonk> Just got back.
<Casey> Bye bye, Witchie.
<Sea Witch> You didn't say what the topic was Chip
<Chipmonk> Most influential writers artists and musicians in the millenium--preferably speculative types.
<Chipmonk> We get to argue about it.
<Sea Witch> Right. Exactly what we've been discussing for the last ten minutes. Silly Witchie!
<kissfan> LOL I like it HEHEHE
<Goshwin> Spec? Tolkien? Heinline? Nivan?
<Chipmonk> No zz top.
<Sea Witch> But plenty of zzzzzz's
<Chipmonk> How about Voltaire, Gosh?
<Casey> Edgar Allen Poe, too.
<Goshwin> hey I'm a SF guy myself..
<Casey> (I'm paid to say that: Richmond, 'n all.)
<kissfan> I like Poe
<Chipmonk> Voltaire wrote fantasy, Poe invented horror.
<Chipmonk> And mysteries.
<Casey> Poe supposedly wrote the first ever SF story.
<Chipmonk> Cyrano de Bergerac
<Chipmonk> He wrote sf.
<Goshwin> SF? what story is this?
<Chipmonk> Something about a trip to the moon.
<Chipmonk> Jules Verne.
<Casey> Definitely Jules Verne!
<Goshwin> Ok Jules Vern
<kissfan> yes most definitely
<Casey> He invented the future as we know it today.
<Chipmonk> Oh, who's the guy who wrote Gulliver's Travels?
<Casey> Swift
<Chipmonk> Yup.
<kissfan> Swift
<Chipmonk> Dante.
<Chipmonk> Shalespeare wrote fantasy.
<Casey> Is that Shakespeare's brother, Chip?
<Chipmonk> No just me typing too fast.
<Casey> (Have I teased you tonight? Now I have.)
<Chipmonk> Oh I feel so much better having had my dose of teasing.
<Chipmonk> And don't forget Mary Shelley!!
<Casey> I didn't want you to feel overlooked.
<Casey> It's alive!
<Chipmonk> I knew you'd get your digs in sooner or later.
<Casey> Who made the shift from science (technology) sf to social SF?
<Chipmonk> Hmmm, don't know.
<Casey> Grin. Thank you for your continued confidence in me.
<Casey> I know Andre Norton wrote social SF in the 50's (?), but I'm sure she wasn't first.
<Chipmonk> Herbert? Heinlein? Bradbury?
<Chipmonk> Unless you want to include 1984 or Brave New World or We.
<Chipmonk> But they weren't sf per se.
<Casey> Kathy's quiet tonight.
<Chipmonk> Yeah Kathy.
<Casey> Come out with your hands up. We know you're talking to someone else.
<kissfan> ya I know I am trying to figure out how to get more people to my site to buy my stuff
<Casey> Good luck on that problem.
<Casey> Have you sold things yet?
<kissfan> I have a lot of people show up and no people buying
<Chipmonk> Have you listed with the search engines?
<kissfan> nothing yet darn it
<kissfan> yep 18 of them
<kissfan> trouble is that most of them I have to wait a few weeks before it goes up
<Casey> There are so many sites selling goods online, it's amazing that any of them are making any money if they're not one of the big names like ebay and Amazon.
<Chipmonk> Compare prices with other online stores and tell them which of your items are the best buys?
<kissfan> I have 124 people counted at the site and no sales yet
<Casey> Good idea, Chip.
<kissfan> I like that idea
<Goshwin> (the relatives are gone, peace presides. I can enter my own world now)
<Chipmonk> I'm not ready for Christmas shopping yet.
<Casey> I wasn't ready for Thanksgiving!
<Casey> I thought you had already entered your own world, Gosh.
<Casey> Hours ago.
<Chipmonk> The World According to Gosh.
<Goshwin> No, when I enter my world, I write. Sometimes its when I write my most powerfull stuff.
<Chipmonk> Scary thought.
<Casey> Chip writes horry.
<Casey> horror.
<Casey> Chip is hairy. What Chip writes is hairy horror (thus, horry)?
<Chipmonk> Good try Casey.
<Casey> Sorry, Chip. It was the best I could do.
<Goshwin> It is time to go.
<Chipmonk> Okay Gosh. Hope you feel okay in the morning.
<Casey> Where?! I mean, goodnight, Gosh.
<Goshwin> Good night, glad to have been here.
<Chipmonk> Take aspirin before bed?
<Goshwin> Not really drunk, but I want to do a thing or two.. Write.. first time in two months the urg has hit. I had better follow it, it has been very very rare latley
<kissfan> good idea Gosh
<Casey> Oh, goody! Go write!
<Chipmonk> Yes, go write before the muse gets inpatient then!
<Casey> New stories from Gosh!
<kissfan> strike now before it is gone
<Goshwin> night then. I hope this idea works out.
<Casey> Do you think he's going to have one of his characters fart?
<kissfan> LOL EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
<Chipmonk> They have in the past.
<Casey> It's the only inspiration I could think we might have given him.
<Chipmonk> Speaking of farts one of the dogs just did.
<Casey> lol! That'll teach us to talk about it.
<Casey> (No, it won't. Who am I kidding?)
<Chipmonk> I still like his bit about what shared spacesuits smell like inside.
<Casey> Yeah. Ewww!
<kissfan> EWWWWWWWWW!
<Chipmonk> I don't remember reading anything that mentions that.
<Chipmonk> Although I read one that discussed learning to poop in zero g's.
<Casey> what comes to mind is shared toileting facilities inside a shared spacesuit.
<Chipmonk> EWWWWWWW!!!!!
<Chipmonk> How about being the poor shmuck in charge of cleaning spacesuits.
<kissfan> Oh YUCK!
<kissfan> I don't want that job
<Casey> These are real problems that must be dealt with.
<Chipmonk> Latrine duty. That's what's holding up manned flights to Mars.
<Chipmonk> We should share this problem with Gosh. He's an engineer, He could figure it out.
<Casey> They have to do what they do here on earth: bring along someone who barely passed 5th grade to clean latrines.
<Chipmonk> Explain that hiring decision to the press.
<Casey> Yup. What fun!
<Casey> I suspect it will fall under "equal opportunity employer."
<Chipmonk> Our crew is Dr. Johnson, MD, Dr. Smith Physicist, Colonel Jones, pilot and Johnny the janitor.
<kissfan> LOL
<Casey> LOL! *Gasp for breath*
<Chipmonk> What happens if you spray Lysol in zero g's.
<Casey> You guys are good for me. I haven't laughed like this for too long.
<Chipmonk> Tightens up the abs.
<Casey> The computer's motherboard doesn't get std?
<Chipmonk> Only if it hangs out with motherborgs.
<crip> so how did nw go? did we learn new and exciting concepts?
<Casey> How to fart in everything but colors.
<Chipmonk> It was wild tonight.
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