CHAT ARCHIVE - 5-29-99, Word Play

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Started on Sat May 29 23:38:08 1999

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<Bookpal> Good Evening, Casey
<Casey> Hi, Bookpal.
<Casey> Are you well?
<Bookpal> Yes, just woke up - slept the whole day - lol
<Casey> I suspect that you needed to do that.
<Bookpal> I think so - catch up time I guess
<Casey> Our bodies somehow know when to take control away from the mind.
<Bookpal> You are right on that
<shorty103> Hi everyone
<shorty103> Casey, I'll be staying only until about 11pm my time okay.
<Casey> Okay. I'm glad you can join us for that length of time.
<Casey> Tonight, I'm introducing grammar as part of New Writers. Which
probably accounts for all the missing bodies.
<shorty103> really! LOL
<Bookpal> I'm sure we all need it
<shorty103> I know I do
<Casey> I was going to begin with something easy: split infinitives.
<Bookpal> ok
<Casey> For me, the hardest part about grammar has always been remembering
what things are called, not how to apply the rules.
<shorty103> sounds good Casey
<Bookpal> same here, Casey
<shorty103> me too!
<Casey> (So please don't ask me too many questions dealing with a
grammatical question I'm not currently covering!)
<Bookpal> lol
<shorty103> understood
<Casey> infinitives simply are the word "to" immediately followed by a
verb.
<Bookpal> ok
<Casey> to run. to jump. to smile, are all infinitives.
<Casey> That makes them very easy to locate in any manuscript. Just find
"to" and look at the word that follows it.
<shorty103> ok
<Casey> When you split an infinitive (which is a big no, no, and which
everyone alive does) then you place some word, usually an adjective or
adverb, between the two words.
<Casey> to usually know, is an example of a split infinitive.
<Casey> to sometimes see; to definitely go.
<Casey> solving the problem is usually simply a matter of removing the
center word and placing it either before or after the infinitive.
<Casey> "sometimes to see"
<Casey> Occasionally, that's not as easy as it sounds because of the
sentence structure.
<Casey> Removing that center word and placing it before or after the
infinitive makes it awkward or actually changes the sense of the sentence.
<Bookpal> ok
<Casey> Either you can attempt to rewrite the sentence to eliminate the
split infinitive, or more and more, an occasional split infinitive is
allowed.
<shorty103> I see that in my writing, now that you have pointed it out
<Bookpal> ok
<Casey> It's the commonest of grammatical mistakes. In fact, as well as I
know the rule, on Thursday of this week I caught a split infinitive in my
own writing when I was editing a passage.
<Bookpal> lol
<Casey> "He interpreted that as a plea to not compromise her position."
<shorty103> at least the one's (like me) make the same mistakes as I. LOL
<Bookpal> I see, move not
<Casey> yep.
<Casey> "He interpreted that as a plea not to compromise her position."
<Casey> And yet, it reads so well the other way! But it's grammatically
incorrect.
<Casey> I know I've said it before, but I'll say it again, if incorporating
approved grammar into your draft writing slows you down, wait and correct
your grammar during your editing phase.
<Casey> But DO correct it, and preferably before others have to read it.
<Bookpal> good plan
<Casey> Eventually, you will be surprised one day to realize that your
editing habits are becoming incorporated into your draft writing.
<Bookpal> thank goodness
<shorty103> I'll be glad when that happens
<Casey> It's a slow process, Rose.
<shorty103> very true
<Casey> But the trick is, to edit your work. Beginning writers make the
mistake of writing draft after draft and never going back to edit what
they've written, and 90% of good writing comes from editing, not from
producing drafts.
<Bookpal> yep, they say " revising is the writing"
<shorty103> now that's interesting! So what I should do now is go over what
I've written and expand on it.
<Casey> Absolutely.
<Casey> But don't tackle the entire ms. at once. Pick a paragraph and work
on it.
<shorty103> so one doesn't have to over due on the " to's " in one's
writing"
<Casey> Rework the paragraph until you become amazed that you were the one
who wrote it because it's so good.
<Bookpal> lol - that does happen, Casey
<shorty103> just like one of the ones I sent to you Casey.
<Casey> It's happened to me many times, Bookpal. I can almost swear that I
wasn't the one who wrote half my stuff.
<Bookpal> lol
<Casey> Yes, Rose. You're definitely working in the right direction. And
when you put all those great paragraphs together, you'll have one whopper
of a story.
<Bookpal> that is one of the fun parts of having someone read it out loud
to you
<shorty103> yes, but I don't unless I get my sister or cousin to do it for
me.
<Casey> I can't remember that anyone has ever read my own work to me. I've
always struggled on my own to determine when a paragraph or piece was
right--and I'm never quite sure.
<Casey> One thing I *have* learned is to trust my instincts about a
piece--not Harold's.
<Bookpal> it does help some times
<Bookpal> lol- about Harold
<shorty103> neither am I, that is why you (Casey) are my guiding light in
most of the rewriting
<Bookpal> we had an actor in our writer's group and he would read our stuff
to us - it was a great learning experience
<Casey> And you should trust your own instincts as well. Someone else will
like a particular thing about a story, even when that story or passage
doesn't work.
<Casey> that sounds like great fun, Bookpal.
<Bookpal> you could hear how the reader might read it - and make
adjustments if you wanted to
<Casey> I can see where that can be very useful. I once had a writing
teacher who read my work aloud in class to demonstrate what should never be
done!
<shorty103> yes, I see what you mean now. But that still doesn't help when
one is just learning grammar, and sentence structure.
<Bookpal> ROFL
<Casey> (So yes, I guess someone has read my work aloud!)
<Bookpal> I think we have all suffered through that, Casey
<Casey> I definitely got the point of the lesson!
<shorty103> maybe that's what I need at this point to see if I can improve
on at the very least one paragraph
<Casey> Grammar simply does have to be learned. Reading published works
that are grammatically correct help immensely in hearing the language and
how it is supposed to flow.
<Bookpal> yes, Read well to write well - always was told that in school -
but still stayed away from the classics
<Casey> A word of warning in that suggestion, tho: Don't pick up grammar
from reading dialogue.
<Casey> Dialogue is a world of it's own, and all grammatical rules are
permitted to fly out the window when the words are enclosed in quotation
marks.
<Bookpal> people do not speak correctly
<shorty103> that is a tricky part for me Casey, and I'm glad that you made
that point.
<Bookpal> example - dialogue you can use "didn't" narrative must be "did
not"
<Casey> Exactly, BP--which is why improper grammar is acceptable in
dialogue. It's supposed to convey the intellectual status of the speaker,
or their social status, or add local color, etc.
<Bookpal> it really helps with social status - to me any way
<Casey> Yep. When you hear a character say "ain't," you get an instant
feel for his or her educational level and social situation.
<shorty103> Casey, my eyes are beginning to close very slowly. Thank you
for saving the buffer for me. I will talk to you later. Bye Bookpal, and
sweet dreams Casey, Hi to Harold.
<Bookpal> I have used that when I wanted to show the difference in the two
characters who are having the conversation
<Casey> I came up with some exercises that are designed to get you thinking
outside of your normal frame of reference.
<Bookpal> I tend to get in a rut
<Casey> I do, too--simply because it's easier to stay in the rut than exert
myself.
<Casey> I have to catch myself doing it and head off in different
directions sometimes.
<Bookpal> I'm finding that with all I do - cooking - I need to find some
new things instead of taking the easy way - lol
<Casey> All too true!
<Casey> The first game has to do with our senses--which are all too easy to
overlook in writing.
<Bookpal> I have that problem
<Casey> We concentrate on action and dialogue and then occasionally go back
and add in smell.
<Bookpal> lol
<Casey> I have a tough time even remembering where I've described the
texture of something in one of my stories.
<Bookpal> same here -
<Casey> So tonight I was going to mix up senses and objects and see what we
can come up with.
<Bookpal> ok
<Casey> Like, how do you describe the flavor of glass?
<Bookpal> oh, thinking
<Casey> sharp and clear, like lemon candy.
<Bookpal> I wouldn't but I see that would be great to do - good example
<Casey> I was thinking of broken glass there.
<Bookpal> the red glass did not taste like strawberries........
<Casey> try to describe these without using the noun I gave you.
<Bookpal> implying blood in some way maybe
<Casey> red glass--blood, very good!
<Casey> your mystery genre skills are coming out!
<Bookpal> always - the rut you know
<Casey> These are not easy. (And no, I haven't invented my answers
beforehand, altho my subconscious has probably been working on the
problems.)
<Casey> Slick and smooth.
<Bookpal> spitting ember hot shards of glass.....
<Bookpal> I'm stuck on glass
<Bookpal> i think of glass as cold
<Casey> I'm envisioning drinking from a glass--spittal on the glass.
<Casey> Then it's neat that you used "hot" when describing glass.
<Casey> Like sucking on ice.
<Bookpal> i was seeing an explosion - window, etc
<Bookpal> yes, I do that - I want more ice than whatever else is in the
glass
<Casey> Me, too! Give me ice water any day!
<Bookpal> lol
<Casey> How about, describe the smell of yellow.
<Bookpal> ok
<Casey> The hot scent of sunflowers at noon.
<Bookpal> the yellow walls smelled of hot days, fresh hay....
<Bookpal> good one Casey
<Casey> We're both thinking hot--the sunshine.
<Bookpal> yes, I painted my dining room two shades of yellow and it sure
felt warm all winter
<Casey> I like your imagery.
<Bookpal> I need to get more direct - like your the hot scent.....
<Casey> It's interesting how specific words evoke other senses.
<Casey> Hey, Crip!
<crip> where is everybody?
<Bookpal> yes, using something readers would understand would help get your
point across
<Casey> Small group tonight.
<Bookpal> Hi, Crip
<crip> hey book
<Casey> We're attempting to describe the smell of yellow.
<crip> daisies
<crip> or honey
<Bookpal> my first thought, crip
<Casey> good ones! I hadn't thought of honey. I like that.
<Bookpal> so do I
<crip> paint
<Bookpal> yellow would smell clean in my mind
<Casey> like being outside in the sunshine.
<Casey> How about, the sound of sunshine?
<Casey> (I like yellow, can you tell?)
<crip> the sound?
<Casey> Yep.
<Bookpal> yellow is a favorite here too
<crip> a bunch of chirping chicks
<Casey> I like that one!
<Bookpal> good
<crip> i only say that because we were watching bug's life at work.
<Bookpal> lol
<Casey> Whatever works!
<Casey> the sigh of wind on a hot summer's day.
<Bookpal> the sunshine played over the pond like a blues guitar winding
down for the night
<crip> wow,two good ones!
<Casey> the thrum of a guitar string, steady and merciless.
<Bookpal> makes me see a desert
<crip> a giant butterfinger
<Casey> (You connected that one for me in my mind, BP, by what you wrote.)
<Casey> Do giant butterfingers make sounds?
<Bookpal> crunch
<crip> they crunch
<Bookpal> lol
<Casey> Ahhhhh! Yes.
<Casey> How about the feel or texture of odor?
<Bookpal> think of the sound of eating popcorn at the movies
<crip> ah excellent
<Casey> good one.
<crip> those flowers that kids rub across their faces that leave streaks of
yellow
<Casey> buttercups.
<Bookpal> yes
<crip> yeah
<Casey> sticky and noxious
<Casey> like stepping in cow manure while barefoot.
<Bookpal> the smell of her perfume made his tongue prickle as if he had
just tasted death
<Casey> That gives me shivers!
<crip> yuck
<Casey> Reminds me of when I've tasted Harold's cologne.
<Bookpal> lol
<crip> yuck!!!!
<Casey> While he was wearing it and I kissed his cheek!! (Just in case you
thought I went around drinking weird things)
<crip> yeah yeah sure sure
<Bookpal> I find I use the word "as" too often - highlighted it once in a
short story draft - looked like measles
<Casey> Good smelling things certainly don't all taste good.
<Casey> lol!
<Casey> "that" was one I used in overkill for a few years.
<Bookpal> we laughed at group when I showed them
<Bookpal> I learned to get away from "that" you can usually just delete it
<Casey> I had to learn that, too.
<Casey> for our last sense, how about, The look of music.
<crip> hmm
<Bookpal> I took a 300+ question grammar test over the internet and found I
did great except for Who/Whom
<Casey> Like fairies dancing in a midnight glade.
<crip> someone's head piled with hair bobbing back and forth
<Casey> Very good, BP! I have trouble with who/whom also.
<Bookpal> butterflies flittering from rosebud to rosebud
<Bookpal> good, crip
<Casey> The sullen surge of the waves toward shore.
<crip> i've been seeing butterflies all day so thats easy to picture *L*
<Bookpal> the wave splashing forty feet above the cliff
<Casey> oh, yes! Classical music!
<Bookpal> percussion instruments
<Casey> I can hear those cymbals in my head.
<Bookpal> had to use different description - can't spell cymbals. cymbles,
cymbols
<Bookpal> lol
<Bookpal> we were hearing the same sounds
<Casey> like a jittery little mouse, just escaped from the cat.
<Bookpal> cool one
<Casey> That's cool to be able to recognize the type of music from the
description.
<Bookpal> the main thing would be to make sure the reader hears, smells,
etc. the way you want them to
<Bookpal> we seem to be getting that across to each other
<Casey> Yes. Although there are passages or lines in classic literature
that are still debated as to the author's intended meaning.
<Bookpal> that's for sure
<Casey> Okay, my next word game is great for creating story titles.
<Casey> It's my favorite of the word games I found.
<Bookpal> I don't do any of this in the first draft - can you go back and
add?
<Casey> Absolutely!
<Bookpal> I need to
<Bookpal> ok, ready
<Casey> First, everyone pick a vivid (to them) noun. Something you find
magical or powerful all by itself.
<Casey> Mine is "minstrel"
<crip> hmm
<Casey> harlot, dragon, fairy, could be examples.
<Bookpal> dragon
<crip> mage
<Casey> great!
<Casey> Now, add an adjective to your word. List as many adjective-noun
combinations as you care to.
<Casey> The dancing minstrel.
<Casey> The black minstrel.
<Bookpal> floating dragon
<Bookpal> lazy dragon
<crip> techno mage
<Casey> Crip's made me laugh! Good!
<Bookpal> the crying dragon
<crip> ???
<Bookpal> what is a mage?
<crip> a wizard
<Casey> one step above a magician.
<Bookpal> thanks
<crip> yeah what she said
<Bookpal> got it
<Bookpal> the angry dragon
<crip> tapdancing mage
<Casey> the sad minstel.
<Bookpal> the cold dragon
<Bookpal> frostbitten dragon
<crip> graybearded mage
<Casey> the technicolored minstrel
<Casey> (Crip's got me going off into weird directions, now!)
<crip> boneheaded mage
<crip> don't blame me!!!
<Bookpal> your idea, Casey
<Casey> Hey, I'm dull and ordinary next to you!
<Bookpal> lol
<crip> whatever
<crip> absentminded mage
<Casey> Okay, now add a prepositional phrase to your noun.
<Bookpal> what would a dragon look like with frostbite -
<Casey> Minstrel in the rain.
<Bookpal> dragon in the clouds
<Casey> Rather pale, I'd think.
<Bookpal> lol
<Casey> minstrel to the king.
<Casey> minstrel in a bucket
<Bookpal> dragon in drag
<Casey> lol!
<crip> excellent!
<crip> mage in a jam
<Casey> minstrel for sale
<crip> mage on the run
<Bookpal> dragon in fear
<Casey> minstel by magic
<Bookpal> good one
<Casey> minstrel by half
<Bookpal> dragon in dreams
<Casey> minstrel on the half shell
<Bookpal> lol
<Casey> minstrel with flowers
<Bookpal> dragon for the king
<Bookpal> dragon by the tail
<crip> mage for the ages
<Casey> Okay, now add a verb
<Casey> The minstrel sings.
<Bookpal> the dragon floats
<crip> The mage magics
<Casey> The minstrel cries
<Bookpal> the dragon sleeps
<Casey> A minstrel dies
<Bookpal> the dragon sweats
<crip> A mage cartwheels
<Casey> That's something different for a dragon!
<crip> can dragons sweat?
<Bookpal> you know me - I know nothing about dragons
<Casey> Bookpal's can.
<crip> i see
<Bookpal> just before he gets shot with a .357
<Casey> lol!
<Casey> The minstrel feasts
<Bookpal> the dragon giggled
<crip> yeah but with a dragons scales it probably wouldn't do much damage
<Bookpal> true, crip
<Casey> would you aim at his scales or his eye?
<crip> yeah but those tiny beady eyes you'd have to be a good shot
<Bookpal> always the body (mass)
<Bookpal> true, crip
<Casey> I know the same about shooting as you know about dragons, BP
<Bookpal> like trying to shoot some one who is running in the leg - yeah!
<Bookpal> lol, Casey
<Casey> the minstrel creeps
<Bookpal> the dragon sighs
<Casey> To backtrack: Minstrel with a temper tantrum
<Casey> good one!
<Bookpal> that would be a different image - Casey
<Casey> okay, now add a second noun to your principle noun
<Casey> Minstrel with the gold
<Casey> the minstrel and the dragon
<crip> mage with a wand
<Casey> The minstrel and Bookpal's dragon
<Bookpal> the dragon and the ring
<Casey> minstrel with the sword
<Bookpal> lol
<Bookpal> dragon with the crown
<Casey> Minstrel mutt
<crip> the mage with a polka dot bikini
<Bookpal> lol
<Casey> lol!
<Bookpal> yellow one?
<crip> yup
<Casey> Yellow minstrel
<Bookpal> the dragon and the tablet
<Casey> Wait, that's become an adjective.
<Casey> Casey's disqualified!
<Bookpal> oh, no
<Casey> Minstrel magic
<Bookpal> dragon tears
<Casey> a minstrel's song
<Bookpal> dragon breath
<Bookpal> dragon boat
<Casey> minstrel breath doesn't have the same impact.
<Bookpal> lol
<Casey> the minstrel's gold chain
<crip> all that singing compared to fire and smog breathing...well depends
on the singing to see which is worse
<Casey> true, crip.
<Bookpal> lol
<Casey> the minstrel's dead wife
<Bookpal> interesting
<Casey> A minstrel's fear
<Bookpal> the dragon's lip
<Bookpal> the dragon's lisp
<Casey> A minstrel's tale
<Casey> minstrel's fantasy
<Bookpal> the dragon's newborn
<Casey> the minstrel's great aunt
<Bookpal> the dragon's imagination
<Bookpal> the dragon's weapon
<Casey> Okay, couple your noun with a word that is at odds with it (that
seems its opposite)
<Casey> The tuneless minstrel
<Bookpal> the dragon's cold tears
<Bookpal> oh,
<Casey> The drunken minstrel
<Bookpal> the friendly dragon
<Bookpal> the soft dragon
<Bookpal> the lazy dragon
<Bookpal> the sad dragon
<Casey> the minstrel who would not roam
<Bookpal> the dragon who could not roar
<Bookpal> the soundless dragon
<Casey> the lying minstrel
<Bookpal> the whispering dragon
<Casey> neat one!
<Bookpal> brainstorming does wonders
<Casey> yes, indeed!
<Casey> It's evoking some really neat imagery for me.
<Bookpal> the scaleless dragon
<Casey> isn't that like a lizard?
<Bookpal> could be
<Casey> the stubborn minstrel
<Casey> the tone deaf minstrel
<Bookpal> the whispering dragon makes we want to write about one
<Casey> minstrel without words
<Bookpal> lol
<Bookpal> maybe an easy-reader
<Casey> Minstrel without a harp
<Bookpal> dragon without fire
<Casey> (he's turned drummer)
<Bookpal> lol
<Bookpal> who wrote the story about the old dragon fighting again? Was that
ez? I liked it .
<Casey> Okay, finally, try combining some of your earlier answers into a
single title.
<Casey> Yes, Ez
<Casey> The darkly dancing minstrel
<Bookpal> The sad whispering dragon
<Bookpal> the scaleless dragon sweats
<Bookpal> the lazy floating dragon
<Casey> Minstrel who sang the rain
<Bookpal> good one
<Casey> Dark minstrel with the gold chain
<Bookpal> The friendly Dragon's weapon
<Casey> Talk about contradiction of terms!
<Casey> I'd read that one to find out what the heck you're talking about.
<Bookpal> that was the idea
<Casey> The king's minstrel who sang of gold
<Bookpal> is it his big old heart? his tail to keep you in line?
<Bookpal> good one
<Bookpal> the floating dragon's cloud
<Casey> lying came the minstrel
<Bookpal> good one!!
<Bookpal> softly came the dragon
<Bookpal> is that a koontz title?
<Casey> It probably could be.
<Bookpal> sounds familiar
<Casey> It is! I just remembered.
<Bookpal> floating dragon is a title by someone
<crip> peter straub
<Bookpal> yep, thanks
<Casey> There are so many dragon stories, it's probably hard to invent a
new one.
<Bookpal> i bet
<Casey> I'm having to scroll back to remember some of the titles I came up
with.
<Bookpal> opposites make good titles
<Bookpal> same here
<Casey> The technicolored minstrel feasts
<Casey> opposites create an element of mystery
<Bookpal> The Dragon Pow-Wow
<Bookpal> indian country here
<Casey> Minstrel curr with the sword
<Casey> The drumming minstrel curr
<Bookpal> I see so many titles every day, but some really make me stop and
look at the fly-leaf
<Casey> Do you remember some of those titles?
<Bookpal> of course not - can't remember them when I want to find them to
read
<Casey> you restore hope to me, bookpal. It's not only my own failing
memory, then.
<Bookpal> always think I will
<Bookpal> should make a list
<Bookpal> no, you are not alone
<Casey> It would be interesting to know what catches your attention in
order to figure out how to create a title with the same kind of catch to
it.
<Bookpal> I'll pay attention and make a list - it would be a great learning
experience for all of us
<Bookpal> or go to a bookstore and do the same
<Casey> I was thinking the same thing.
<Casey> When I go into a library, what makes me pause and pull a particular
title off the shelf?
<crip> the smell?
<Bookpal> J.A. Jance has a great title - Tombstone Courage and if you know
the term it makes you want to read to see what happened
<Casey> lol! Probably its age--being older than me is a fascinating
concept.
<Casey> That is very striking. What does the term mean?
<crip> I just picked up a book called I Am Legend and if there was no
picture on the front I don't know if i would have picked it up or not.
<crip> sounds like a western
<Casey> Like Wyatt Erp?
<Casey> I was originally thinking of graveyards.
<Bookpal> in law-enforcement it means when a cop does something stupid that
will get him killed - going in without back-up, that type of thing
<crip> wow, i would have no idea it meant that at all!
<Bookpal> you could see it as being brave or stupid
<Bookpal> if you are a cop
<Casey> Just shows, that our personal experiences and exposures dictate how
we interpret a title.
<Bookpal> she told me she heard the phrase and wrote the book from that
<Bookpal> you hear it in training all the time
<Bookpal> true, Casey
<Casey> It makes sense since you've explained it, BP
<Bookpal> my point is she had the title first and then wrote the book
<Casey> Just enough courage to get yourself killed.
<Bookpal> yep
<Casey> Koontz with Softly came the dragons wrote the title first and the
story second.
<Bookpal> sometimes you don't have a choice - if a child needs help, etc
<Bookpal> I must have read something about that one, it rang a bell
<Casey> Well, you folks have exhausted my word games, so we're free to chat
or discuss any writing-related thing we care to.
<Bookpal> how about "as" for a minute
<Casey> Sure!
<Casey> Have you read his How to Write a Best Seller? It's in there.
<Bookpal> Yes, I have
<Casey> That's where you've heard it then.
<Casey> Do you have a specific question about "as?"
<Bookpal> I overuse Anna said, as she walked into the room ( or something
- always "as he/she)
<Bookpal> Anna said, walking into the room ??
<Casey> That would work
<Casey> "she" is redundant with Anna, so your rewrite also makes the
sentence tighter.
<Bookpal> I'm letting it go in the draft, but I can highlight on the screen
so I'm doing that so I go back and catch it
<Bookpal> true
<Casey> how do you highlight a passage and make it stay that way?
<Casey> (sounds like a cool tool to use)
<Bookpal> Word 97 - you have several colors to choose from - I use them to
mean different things when I go back
<crip> oh lord don't give her more tools *L*
<Casey> Weapons!!!!
<Bookpal> yellow - means fix, delete, think, change
<Casey> Crip, does that work in Word? I don't have Word 97
<Bookpal> blue means add more to it - this is my little code - lol
<crip> i don't know
<Bookpal> I had word 6 and I think you can do it, but not sure
<Casey> these are useful things to learn.
<Bookpal> it might be in the revising tool bar or format
<Casey> I'll look and play around with the buttons. I LOVE pushing
buttons!
<Casey> Where is it in yours?
<crip> stay away from the 'nuclear bomb' buttons!!!!!
<Bookpal> 97 shows a highlighter with - let me go look
<Casey> AWWWWWW, Crip!
<Bookpal> lol
<Bookpal> I'll look later and email you
<Casey> Okay. Thanks, Bookpal. It might be the most colorful my writing
every gets!
<Bookpal> if you print in color they are there
<Bookpal> lol
<Casey> BTW, young'un, you said you're working on "chapter 1." What does
this mean?
<Bookpal> it is meant to be used to send a draft having you check the
yellow part, crip check the blue, Rose check the pink, etc
<Casey> And when am i EVER going to see the revised sea story?
<crip> *YAWN* suddenly i feel really tired
<Casey> ha ha!
<Bookpal> go get him, Casey
<Casey> chain him to the chair!
<Casey> If I come on at 2 a.m. and see you online, I'm beating you.
<crip> hey now! i worked from 3 to midnight and 1:30 to 9:30 today. i could
be tired!
<crip> 3 to midnight yesterday
<Bookpal> too young to be tired
<crip> 53 is a tiring age
<Casey> I wouldn't know. (bats eyes)
<Bookpal> that is still young to me
<crip> yeah the last time you saw 53 was 1853
<Casey> lol! Now, now! Stop telling secrets.
<Bookpal> lol
<Casey> 1953 was also a possibility
<Bookpal> I hear pots and pans banging in my kitchen so will go and help
out
<Bookpal> I saw 1943, but don't remember it
<Casey> Okay, Bookpal. Glad to see you again.
<Bookpal> take care, you two
<crip> later
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